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Buxton is controlled for 1 year and can’t stay healthy. And his best asset is playing CF, and we have a pretty good one of those. Trading Vaughn for Buxton, which will never happen btw, would be an incredibly shortsighted move.

We probably should’ve sent Vaughn down a month or so ago when you were clamoring about it! He’s only hit like .350 Since then!

For what? He’s not getting suspended.

9 game lead is a decent reason.

Luis alright? Didn’t play today after an early departure yesterday. Assume it’s planned but worth asking if anyone has seen anything.

Also in tonight’s lineup so unlikely he’d be coming tomorrow either. Monday makes more sense.

Agreed. Tho getting an well above LH RF this offseason would sure be nice.

Yeah. Was trying to be realistic based off the rumored ask for Story to the Yanks. I’d probably make that deal without Dalquist and if Rox picked up more $. I’d take Marquez over Cease next two years. Burger is blocked. Adolfo is purely clearing 40 man space. Sure we punt some control of Cease on the backend, but if you have Marquez, Cease probably isn’t in the rotation anymore if everyone is healthy. Again, just a video game trade for discussion.

Purely just a video game trade proposal…this has no basis in reality. Do you make this trade? Story + Blackmon + Marquez for Cease + Burger + Dalquist + Romy Gonzalez + Adolfo. Rox send $10M of the approx $40M owed to Blackmon.

You may be right, but Escobar makes wayyyyyyyy too much sense. There are only so many available 2B.

The Rays are so weird.

Hope so, though may as well wait until Monday. Guess we'll see an Eloy-Engel-Vaughn OF (shudders). I would have thought Eloy would have had the day off yesterday if he was coming to Milwaukee today, but we'll see! Insert other media

Yeah they’re definitely MLb ready. Both will probably make starts for the Twins in 21, tho sounds like Ryan is off to the Olympics. Ryan did make the very backend of BA top 100 before the season. He is 25 tho. Seems like a solid return for 10 weeks of Cruz.

Really? These guys are 25.

Gotcha. As does mine about it being very unlikely Ruiz going before ReyLo.

I will need to double check, but I’m fairly certain that Ruiz is out of options. I would be surprised to see the Sox choose Lopez over Ruiz.

Posted this is another thread earlier today, but this what I think. Eloy -----> Burger to AAA Robert ------> Goodwin DFA or Sheets to AAA (tough call here) Bullpen trade ------> ReyLo AAA Escobar or other 2B trade ------> Mendick to AAA Yasmani ------> Zavala AAA I don't see the Sox cutting Hamilton, but he could be an IL candidate to avoid DFAing Goodwin. I'd be surprised if the Jake Lamb makes it back to the Sox, but perhaps they chose Lamb over Sheets when Jake's 20 day rehab stint is up. Will be interesting roster machinations regardless.

That works too. I guess I'd be surprised if anyone is interested after that display. But we'll see.

Lol Yermin. Glad someone calmed him down. He's pissed any trade value he may have had away, but let him rake until September in AAA. Call him up as the third catcher for a few DH starts, and see if you can get something for him in the offseason when its all blown over.

That seems like an overpay.

I get it. Its unfortunate for Yermin. But he's the guy who's production fell of a cliff, and he's the guy that cannot play a position well enough to be anything other than a beer league softball player defensively. These are things he can improve on, and if so, he has a role on an mlb club. Maybe that isn't with the Sox, but if he kept raking in AAA instead of throwing a public temper tantrum and quitting, he would have gotten an opportunity somewhere at some point even if he never improved defensively. I like Yermin. I hope he cools off, has a chance of heart and the Sox grant him another opportunity down in AAA. But the Sox aren't the bad guys here man. I know you have strong feelings about labor laws in mlb, and that is fine. I don't disagree with some of what you're saying - but this is all stuff they agreed to in their contracts, and the upside for them in quite literally financial freedom for life and their children's lives. Expecting the Sox to just willy nilly grant releases to disgruntled player is asinine.

Correct.

Who said he has no place going forward? You're legit the only person saying that. This man was our primary DH for 3 months!!! He struggled so bad he got demoted. But that doesn't mean he has no prayer of ever sniffing the big leagues again, especially if he can actually learn to be below average but passable receiver. And yes....just granting players releases because they're unhappy with situations would very much put a club at a competitive disadvantage. If you can't see that...well then, I guess I should just leave it at that. Rays probably should have just released Wander Franco too. Can't imagine he was too happy being held hostage down in Durham!

Ahhh, yes. The Sox should put themselves at a competitive disadvantage to the other 29 clubs just to pave the way and be nice guys. Got it.

You can dislike it, but its the way the game works. And if you make it, you get paid quite handsomely for it. Obviously they're human beings, but their professional rights are owned by an organization (who paid for them). Yermin had value to the organization (even if just as an insurance policy), and they have no reason to punt it just to be nice. I don't really care to get into a labor discussion about this, and I agree it somewhat unique to personal sports, but you won't find me feeling bad for professional athletes. This is the career they chose, and again, if you make it --- you get paid better than just about any other career out there and you get to retire early with amazing retirement benefits. Hard to feel too bad - especially in this instance when Yermin was almost certainly going to come back. He's just being a giant sized toddler right now.