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Yeah they’re definitely MLb ready. Both will probably make starts for the Twins in 21, tho sounds like Ryan is off to the Olympics. Ryan did make the very backend of BA top 100 before the season. He is 25 tho. Seems like a solid return for 10 weeks of Cruz.

Really? These guys are 25.

Gotcha. As does mine about it being very unlikely Ruiz going before ReyLo.

I will need to double check, but I’m fairly certain that Ruiz is out of options. I would be surprised to see the Sox choose Lopez over Ruiz.

Posted this is another thread earlier today, but this what I think. Eloy -----> Burger to AAA Robert ------> Goodwin DFA or Sheets to AAA (tough call here) Bullpen trade ------> ReyLo AAA Escobar or other 2B trade ------> Mendick to AAA Yasmani ------> Zavala AAA I don't see the Sox cutting Hamilton, but he could be an IL candidate to avoid DFAing Goodwin. I'd be surprised if the Jake Lamb makes it back to the Sox, but perhaps they chose Lamb over Sheets when Jake's 20 day rehab stint is up. Will be interesting roster machinations regardless.

That works too. I guess I'd be surprised if anyone is interested after that display. But we'll see.

Lol Yermin. Glad someone calmed him down. He's pissed any trade value he may have had away, but let him rake until September in AAA. Call him up as the third catcher for a few DH starts, and see if you can get something for him in the offseason when its all blown over.

That seems like an overpay.

I get it. Its unfortunate for Yermin. But he's the guy who's production fell of a cliff, and he's the guy that cannot play a position well enough to be anything other than a beer league softball player defensively. These are things he can improve on, and if so, he has a role on an mlb club. Maybe that isn't with the Sox, but if he kept raking in AAA instead of throwing a public temper tantrum and quitting, he would have gotten an opportunity somewhere at some point even if he never improved defensively. I like Yermin. I hope he cools off, has a chance of heart and the Sox grant him another opportunity down in AAA. But the Sox aren't the bad guys here man. I know you have strong feelings about labor laws in mlb, and that is fine. I don't disagree with some of what you're saying - but this is all stuff they agreed to in their contracts, and the upside for them in quite literally financial freedom for life and their children's lives. Expecting the Sox to just willy nilly grant releases to disgruntled player is asinine.

Correct.

Who said he has no place going forward? You're legit the only person saying that. This man was our primary DH for 3 months!!! He struggled so bad he got demoted. But that doesn't mean he has no prayer of ever sniffing the big leagues again, especially if he can actually learn to be below average but passable receiver. And yes....just granting players releases because they're unhappy with situations would very much put a club at a competitive disadvantage. If you can't see that...well then, I guess I should just leave it at that. Rays probably should have just released Wander Franco too. Can't imagine he was too happy being held hostage down in Durham!

Ahhh, yes. The Sox should put themselves at a competitive disadvantage to the other 29 clubs just to pave the way and be nice guys. Got it.

You can dislike it, but its the way the game works. And if you make it, you get paid quite handsomely for it. Obviously they're human beings, but their professional rights are owned by an organization (who paid for them). Yermin had value to the organization (even if just as an insurance policy), and they have no reason to punt it just to be nice. I don't really care to get into a labor discussion about this, and I agree it somewhat unique to personal sports, but you won't find me feeling bad for professional athletes. This is the career they chose, and again, if you make it --- you get paid better than just about any other career out there and you get to retire early with amazing retirement benefits. Hard to feel too bad - especially in this instance when Yermin was almost certainly going to come back. He's just being a giant sized toddler right now.

Yeah, gonna disagree here. The Sox don't owe Yermin shit. Some people dislike it, but these dudes are assets owned by an organization. Yermin 24 hours ago likely had some value, especially with 6 years of control. I wouldn't give that away if I were the Sox either. Now? He has none. So maybe he gets his way eventually and the Sox release him. But I can promise you he eliminated most if not all of his potential employers in the process.

Ahhh if the 40 man is at 39, that theory is out the window.

I would take Lucroy 100/100 times over Zavala. He also has familiarity with the staff. For sure. Not saying Sox are going to bring in Lucroy, but why DFA a guy and risk losing him if you can just sign Lucroy to an milb deal a couple days later. With the trade deadline so close, there will be some 40 man movement and spots will open.

Yep...misread it. my bad.

Yeah, would require a DFA tho. Could theoretically sign him now as an milb deal and a trade or two over the next few days creates a roster spot without the DFA. But yes.

Yeah I mentioned that the other day. I definitely think Billy is an IL candidate if the roster crunch becomes too much for him to survive. Every swing he takes hurts...he's clearly not 100%.

Lol he's not tradable now. No one is taking that baggage. Yermin just punted any trade value he had by acting like a child and quitting when he didn't get his way.

Someone might want to explain to Yermin that his rights are owned by the White Sox and they don't owe him shit. Someone should also tell him that a .150/.220/.196 triple slash over 120 PA isn't going to get him slack with any organization, and the Sox gave him a rope longer than most. Those tweets are seriously cringe worthy.

This quote? "First of all I want to thank God for giving me life to the fans that without them I was nothing to my family for understanding me and always support Daniel szew for getting me ahead, and by the way ask forgiveness to all those who eh offended fruit of immaturity to the members of the radio, television and press..to all the teams I participated by not tolerating the decisions of them to everyone who has a human being eh failed i apologize and thus I walked from baseball for awhile god bless you its over? You're saying that is an except from a song except change the "baseball" to "music"? It very well could be...just seems like a lot!

I also wonder if the Sox bringing in another catcher (Grullon) and playing him over Yermin is what broke the camel's back. He was told to go down and continue working on catching and get his swing back. In the meantime, Grandal gets hurt and Zavala gets the call instead (for obvious reason), and the Sox bring in another catcher with MLB experience in Grullon. Yermin's demons in his head start telling him he'll never make it back...and he snaps. Seems about as realistic of a scenario I can think of.

Wait...which quote? Just he "El Retrio" part? Cuz the diatribe was pretty Yermin/Baseball specific, so tough to see that as song lyrics.

Man, gonna be tough to just throw Goodwin to the wolves after how good he's been. Its the right thing to do, but a tad cutthroat. I guess that is what happens when you win. I still don't think Cruz is an option for the Sox, but even without him, there is a real roster crunch coming. Eloy -----> Burger to AAA Robert ------> Goodwin DFA Bullpen trade ------> ReyLo AAA Escobar or other 2B trade ------> this is where things get interesting. I guess Mendick to AAA Yasmani ------> Zavala AAA I think Sheets hangs around cuz we need lefty sticks, and I don't see the Sox cutting Hamilton. I'd be surprised if the Jake Lamb makes it back to the Sox, but perhaps they chose Lamb over Sheets when Jake's 20 day rehab stint is up. Will be interesting roster machinations regardless.