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Just strange to me how some Sox fans put the Twins on a pedestal. The Sox have been mostly a dumpster fire for a decade, so I get it in that respect, but the Twins haven’t done shit. It’s an org that frankly has produced very little to be jealous of. My take opinion is a little unique seeing as though I’ve lived the majority of my life in MN, all my best friends are Twins fans, and therefore I know more about the Twins than most “Twins fans”, but still.

The Twins haven’t won a playoff game since before the White Sox won the World Series.

Most of them are.

39 games, yes. I don’t. I think this is it. They like Thorpe a lot. Graterol likely starts in AA, he may factor in later in the season as needed, but the most innings he’s ever thrown is 102 in a season. Berrios-Odo-Pineda-Hill-Bailey/Thorpe/Graterol is alright, but they won’t actually be throwing those guys out in tandem much at all this season. I also think Berrios’ elbow is worth monitoring. He lost a lot of velocity on his FB towards the middle to back end of the season. They really need him to stay healthy (obviously).

I’ve known about this for a little bit. Good news for our Sox. Hill will be a decent piece for them at some point, but he is going to miss half the season. Pretty encouraging for the Sox - a Berrios, Odorizzi, Bailey, Thorpe, Smeltzer rotation to start the year isn’t very good. Though it obviously gets better with Pinedia joining the fold in late May and Hill sometime in the summer. Twins definitely want Donaldson. But whether they’re willing to be the high bidder remains to be seen.

I don't think he's going to walk enough to have a .345 OBP with a .295 average. With the lineup the way it is now, people would be nuts to walk Madrigal. I know he has good plate displince, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him have OBPs over .350 later in his career, but that is a really solid output as a rookie.

If the offense is that good, the Sox are going to win more than 88 games. Individually I don't think any are insane. I doubt Robert and Madrigal are THAT good as rookies. Eloy's OBP looks a little high. But the rest are pretty solid. I could see Timmy batting more like .285, but certainly hope he beats .300 again.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/payroll/ This is accurate. Add in $18M for Keuchel and ~$9M for pre-arb guys and you get to $120.5M.

Approximately $120M, give or take a mill.

Last year our RF amassed -2.8 fWAR. Our DH's amassed -3.9 fWAR. Our 5th starters amassed -1.7 fWAR. Replacing DH with EE (2.0 fWAR projection), RF with Mazara (1.5 fWAR projection), and the carousel SP spot with Keuchel (2.5 fWAR projection) is about a 14.5 win swing without taking into account Grandal over Mccann, Robert over Engel/Leury, Madrigal over Yolmer, as well as anything we get from Kopech, Gio Gonzalez, Rodon etc. I would say we're about an 85 win team right now, and it could be lot better depending on primarily on how well Robert, Cease, Kopech, Madrigal and Lopez do.

I would bet on Timmy over Polanco next year. Both has awesome 2019s, and I expect both to regress a bit, but I think Polanco really took advantage of the juiced ball. The Twins IF defense is atrocious. Even if the sign Donaldson, its still going to be really bad.

There is a zero percent chance Engel is DFA'd before this season. Covey is probably safe for now as well, though he would certainly be on my short list. Zavala is probably gone for EE. Fulmer would be my next guess as he is out of options and is unlikely to last more than a week in the MLB pen, but I could see them giving him one last chance.

Yah, I literally just said that Ray.

I completely agree. Hopefully by 22, he is our clear #5 behind Gio, Cease, Kopech and whoever emerges as the 4th starter out of Lopez, Dunning, Stiever. At that point, you can easily manage his innings with skipped starts, skipping 5th starter early in the season, a quick DL stint, etc. That being said, would be nice to get clarity on if the vesting option is still in play.

From MLBTR: The Scott Boras client also has a fourth-year club/vesting option. Keuchel, the White Sox revealed, will earn $18MM annually, and the Sox hold a $1.5MM buyout on his 2023 option. His option will reportedly vest at $20MM if he pitches 160 innings in years two and three of the contract. Otherwise, it functions as a traditional club option. Soooo...maybe there is still some vesting component, though they could just have bad info or are still trying to incorporate in the old info.

At this point, Rutherford isn't a serious prospect, and he has very little chance to make it to the bigs with the Sox. I have zero issues whatsoever trading him for a reliever. The only OF prospect we have worth holding for the time being is Adolfo (besides the obvious in Robert), and maybe Basabe to a lesser extent.

I am hesitant to pay what would be necessary for Will Harris. A 3 year $40M type deal for a soon to be 36 year old probably isn't going to turn out great.

Still going to need to manipulate the roster for EE. 40 man is now full. Though Zavala and Medeiros should be easy DFAs.

Significantly better. The negative nancies were all basically calling it a 4 year deal because they read the vesting option as 160 innings combined over 21 and 22. Club option is obviously best case scenario for the Sox.

Details a little different than first reported. 4th year is a $20M club option with a $1.5M buyout - not a vesting option. First three years are $18M. not $18.25M. Same $55.5M guarantee though with the buyout.

The best part about Zobrist is he can play 2B for the first couple weeks before becoming a bench bat and platoon option in RF. He is a good fit. But I am also good rolling with Mendick at 2B with Leury in CF and Mazara in RF against LHP. Then Engel in CF and Leury in RF against LHP. It’ll work just fine for a few weeks.

I think if we’re going to force a fit, he’s the best one. I’d prefer just rolling with Leury with a little Engel as the weak side RF platoon as opposed to Pence, SantAna, Puig, Dyson, etc.

Good

Do not want.

Leury is going to be playing everyday in the early going.