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They better be! They have 2 SP, and one isn't good!

Not really. Twins have like $85-90M committed to next years payroll. They have enough money to add some tertiary pieces. Which they did very well doing this past offseason. Chances them hitting on every guy again are pretty low. The Twins are most likely going to be better than the White Sox next season, but I suspect that will be the last season for quite a while.

It is a good core - I agree. But pretty much all of those guys outside of Buxton and Sano played at their ceiling this season. And they legitimately have 2 SP under control for next season - Berrios and Perez. They also have a lot of the same issues the White Sox have with attracting top FA. They're a good team, but just about everything has gone right for them this season except Buxton not staying healthy (surprise, surprise). The clocks on all of those guys are ticking away as well. Their time is right now, and 2020. Pitching wins in the playoffs. The Yankees also absolutely own them, and have for years, they're simply just not as good as the Astros. It will be a quick stay in October.

Not really. Kopech's velo was way down. Cease hit 100 a couple times today. Was sitting at 98-99. The wild pitches were bizarre, but I don't think its an arm injury.

Ehh. Coaching most definitely. Talent-wise - I mean, they're good. But they're also pretty stop gappy and have very little pitching outside of Berrios. Buxton is really good when he's healthy. Rosario and Kepler are really nice OF. Sano is a great DH. Other than that - they're a giant pile of meh that has wildly overachieved this season.

The Twins will almost certainly lose in the first round of the playoffs.

There is also no chance he evens gets that AAV on a 1 year deal. WOOF

That will be me if they make the beyond idiotic decision to call these guys up in the month of September. They cannot possibility be that dumb.

Donation made. Sorry to hear about your dog, man. Been there. Praying for Frankie!

Yah, I mean, I think I've been the lead cheerleader on Nimmo. He makes too much sense. Just really tough to pinpoint what he'd cost. If the Sox could get him without giving up any of their top 5 or so prospects, and perhaps even trim some of the 40 man while doing it, that would be great. Perhaps something like Rutherford + Hansen + Pilkington or Lambert gets it done. Not sure. Assuming the obvious are off the table, I assure Mets would want Rutherford/Walker + Dunning/Stiever as the first two pieces.

For sure. I'd love for it to be Cole or Strasburg, but even if the Sox are interested, they can't make those guys sign with Sox. Even if Cole and Strasburg sign elsewhere, that does not mean the offseason is a failure. One of Wheeler, Ryu, Bumgarner, Keuchel + one of Wood, Odorizzi, Gibson, Pineda would certainly be a step in the right direction. A lot also depends on how much they plan to ease Kopech into MLB action. 1 SP may be enough if they take the kid gloves off, but I think he opens in AAA - meaning 2 SP are needed. Get a big stick in RF and/or 1B/DH, and you have a pretty good team once the young guns arrive in late April.

The difference is - he hasn't repeated himself 3,707 times like you have. Having the opinion that the White Sox aren't going to sign Rendon and/or Cole (a very fair take, mind you) is not the same thing as stating that since Manny Machado signed elsewhere, the White Sox will never again sign a free agent of note and will be relegated to signing the likes of Jon Jay, Ivan Nova and Welington Castillo for the rest of time. While also completely ignoring the context of when said signings were made. You consistently lack the ability to comprehend that the White Sox have not been trying to fill gaps with top tier players since they began this rebuild. Things change next season - and this is abundantly obvious. They took a shot at boosting things by getting a premier talent in Machado before they were really ready for him. He signed elsewhere. That doesn't mean the plan changes. There, I explained it to you yet again.

I (and many others) have gone over this with you a countless times. When your points are disputed, you just ignore them and don't respond and go back to repeating the same whiny shit. Its exhausting.

Yawn

Any care to provide a scouting report on Vince Arobio?

He has proven time and time again that the answer to that question is unequivocally, no.

Berrios is without a doubt the Twins best pitcher.

Leury will be playing CF until Robert, and mostly likely Madrigal, arrive in late April.

Yah, not really signing him to DH. Him and McCann split catching duties. Get Collins in there once or twice a week. Collins DHs against RHP, Grandal catches. McCann sits against tough righties, etc. I think a three-way catching/DH/occasional 1b tandem with those three works pretty well. Also, there really aren't many great DH options, especially lefties. Justin Smoak is one of the better fits....and....gross.

Great, sign him for $5M then. Doesn't change anything.

Yah...if anything, tried to overshoot my estimates a bit. I think 3/$30M could maybe even get it done for Betances

I can tell you with 100% certainty that Robert and Madrigal getting called up in September will make absolutely zero impact on Moncada and Giolito potentially signing extensions this offseason.

Just for fun - mainly because I am bored at work today - I am going to put together an off-season plan that doesn't include any mega contacts or trades and see how things shake out. Sign Zack Wheeler - 4 years / $70M Sign Yasmani Grandal - 3 years/ $55M + $17M club option Sign Dellin Betances - 4 years / $48M Re-sign Jose Abreu - 2 years/ $20M + $10M club option Sign Alex Gordon - 1 year / $9M Sign Alex Wood - 1 year / $8M Sign Scooter Gennett - 1 year / $5M Adds ~$80M to next year's payroll, which should bring the total up to ~$125M or still below league average. 2020 Opening Day Lineup / Roster: Leury Garcia CF, Tim Anderson SS, Yoan Moncada 3B, Jose Abreu 1B, Eloy Jimenez LF, Yasmani Grandal DH, Alex Gordon RF, James McCann C, Scooter Gennett 2B Rotation: Giolito, Wheeler, Cease, Lopez and Wood Bullpen: Betances, Colome, Bummer, Fry, Herrera, Marshall, Cordero, one of Ruiz/Frare/Hamilton/Vieira/Burdi BN: Collins, Goins, Engel/Cordell Lineup / Roster by ~June 1: Luis Robert CF, Tim Anderson SS, Yoan Moncada 3B, Jose Abreu 1B, Eloy Jimenez LF, Yasmani Grandal DH, Alex Gordon RF, James McCann C, Nick Madrigal 2B Rotation: Giolito, Wheeler, Cease, Lopez and Kopech (with Rodon arriving soon) Bullpen: Betances, Colome, Bummer, Fry, Herrera, Wood, Cordero, one of Marshall/Ruiz/Frare/Hamilton/Vieira/Burdi BN: Leury, Collins, Gennett LETS PLAY. I would definitely go to battle with this team. Limits long term commitments. Only slightly bests Abreu's $68M contact as the largest the Sox have given out. For those that don't see the Sox adding a major FA - I get it - but this wouldn't be an awful way for things to shake out. I'd obviously prefer Cole to Wheeler, but understand that 7/$225M+ is going to be quite steep.

I assume any of these deals would have team options. Its Hahn's M-O.

Another guy who should get a look this month is Bernando Flores, IMO. He needs to be added to the 40 man in December. Is already 24 years old. Throws left handed. Give him some starts.