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Truly amazing Skole is still getting at bats.

They'll all say but but but but MANNY MACHADO!! WHAT HAPPENED THERE!?! But yah...I suspect things will change this offseason. But most simply just won't believe it until they see it, and the Sox have earned the skepticism.

I would bet that Anderson and Moncad ahave played VERY little outfield in their life. They've both been infielders their entire pro career. They were both undoubtedly the best/most talented player on every team they ever played on prior to that. In which case they were almost always playing SS, at least 3B and SS.

They've also been rebuilding since 2016, so they weren't really looking to fill legitimate gaps via FA. I will concede that the last spending spree following the 2014 season was pretty terrible (Robertson deal was fine/good). I am willing to give them another chance to prove they'll do it right this time. They also have a lot more financial flexibility than they had then. Every signing they've made since Chris Sale was traded was not meant to be anything more than a stop gap. I feel you often forget this very important detail.

This is about as good of a lineup as we can hope for with the existing 25 man.

He also traded for Moncada, Giolito, Kopech, Eloy, Cease, and Lopez. And drafted/signed Anderson, Robert and Madrigal. Ya' know....like our entire young core. He's never been in this exact position before. I think it makes sense to at least see the rebuild through before giving up on it.

One thing I know for sure - regardless of what happens, you'll complain about it.

Tim Anderson is pretty good SS. He's young and incredibility talented. I am not moving him to a position he's never played. Not to mention offensively he profiles pretty bleh at RF. Thankfully I HIGHLY doubt this is even remotely in the Sox thoughts.

Fair enough - I support you in your endeavours.

So why comment on it if you don’t give a shit?

He was one of those athletes that got busted with some pretty racist tweets before he was a pro.

Yoan4Moan has made it abundantly obvious that he is Cubs troll. You got that much right. But Jayce Fry isn’t really a good guy. He’s kinda of a scumbag that just happens to be talented at throwing a baseball with his left arm. He’s also made that abundantly clear.

Not to be a prick, but this isn't really how the process will work. If Yolmer is going to stay with the Sox, he'll sign a 1 year deal before being non-tendered (what you called released). I suppose its possible the Sox non-tender him and then he ends up resigning with them a month or two later when he realizes he isn't getting paid more elsewhere, but thats unlikely. He'll either take a 1 year at reduced rate with the Sox BEFORE getting non-tendered or he'll get non-tendered. Or worst case sceneario, Sox let him go the arb and pay him at least 2x what he's really worth.

I'd still be on board with something in the range of 3 years and $15M for McCann this offseason. Not sure he takes that, but you never know. Anything over like 3/$18M IMO, it makes more sense for the Sox to just go to arb with with him in 2020 and see where things shake out.

Yah. You answered it with your 2nd question.

Nitpicky, but he doesn't really have an option left. This was his last option year, and he isn't getting optioned again this season. He'll need to clear waivers next year if he doesn't break camp with the Sox. Along with him in that category will be Marshall, Fulmer, and Vieria. Technically Osich too, but no chance he isn't outrighted after the season.

I think Sox offer him a take it leave it $2.5-$3M 1 year deal. Take it or you'll be nontendered - because as you said, he isn't getting a pay cut via arb. Yolmer is a major leaguer (ie: even if Sox cut him, he'll be in MLB next season), but he's also incredibly replaceable.

Why in the world would be move our very good young controllable long term SS to the OF (a position he hasn't played in professional bal) for a 30 year old Gregorius? Its an outside the box thought, but its pretty dang farfetched.

This was WELLLLLL after Harper had signed with the Phillies.

Sure. Just doesn't seem like a wise use of resources. If the Sox signed Rendon, played him at 2B and moved Madrigal for a young stud SP, sure that works. But the Sox future IF is set IMO. The $ will be spent on starting pitching, a bullpen anchor, DH/1B type and perhaps a RF (I see them trading for the RF, personally).

For like the 50th time, Rendon should not even be discussed. There is a 0% chance the Sox are moving Moncada again. ZERO.

Right. 2020 could be super fun, but it isn't time for primetime. Things could go great and they could find themselves in the thick of things, but I am not really expecting that. Over .500 baseball would be great. We're talking about potentially as few as 15 games. Chances are higher Robert spends more time on the IL next season than the amount he'll miss because he's taking at bats in Charlotte. There is no quantifiable evidence that Robert being up for the next few weeks would make any difference in next season's results. Shit some are projecting the decision to affect his whole career. Its non sense. Madrigal getting called up this year would be a serious rush job and wasn't even a point of discussion until a couple weeks ago. Most of you just simply won't believe it until you see it. I get it. If Sox go through the next two offseasons without signing a $100M player, I may just as big of skeptic. But for now, there is no evidence that the White Sox are now operating with one of the smallest payrolls in the league. The core is there. That is why they went through this painful process. They are going to add. They have legitimately a metric fuck ton of money to spend. They aren't just going to throw their hands up and spend it on shitty veterans just because Manny Machado signed elsewhere.

So surprising to see you take the contrarian everything will go wrong stance!

Good thing we've got him for 4 more entire seasons after this one. Waves of talent. It'll be nice when Moncada leaves for free agency the Sox aren't forced to rebuild again because an impatient front office brought all the prospects up at the same time. Instead, we'll still be really fucking good even if Moncada leaves for $250M payday.

Lol - the guy can only throw a limited amount of innings next year!! So the choice is start him in April when he hasn't faced batters in a real game in 18 months and then shut him down in August for the year. Or start him in the bigs in June after he's built up his endurance in AAA some and then let him pitch unrestricted through the end of the season. Oh and with the 2nd option, you get a year of control back! Its such an easy decision for me. Thankfully, I think it will be for the Sox as well.