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QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) There's a team that just left town, that could potentially match up pretty well with the Sox. Glasnow, McGuire, Meadows, Bell, Hanson are pretty good Pirates prospects, and they have a real shot at the World Series this season. You definitely dont move Sale unless already successful young major league talent is coming back. Trading him for all prospects could blow up big time.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:33 PM) It's not a crappy value. It allows you a ton of draft flexibility in a supposed good draft. They need something good in return for Samardzija to deal him. This. I think we can all agree that besides passing on Bryant and Rodon, the Astros have done a pretty incredible job drafting in recent years. If the Sox get the top 5-10 pick they are seemingly heading towards next draft, that is a ton of pool money to play with to really invest on strengthening the system between their first 3 picks. If Samardzija is going to get dealt, it needs to be for something more valuable than that and that is pretty valuable. Point is, they have options when it comes to trading Samardzija and they dont need to take a lesser value for him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:17 PM) If Tim Anderson finishes this season with a .715-ish OPS, like where he is now, he will absolutely fall out of the top 100. Montas's walk rate is 3.8/9 right now, which is on the poor side. He's got that 1.17 WHIP because of a low babip - below .240 so far on the season (had to estimate a couple things because not reported). This system is awful. I would put it as comparably bad to the years you're talking about and the major league team is far weaker. Tim Anderson will not fall out of the top 100. Have you even looked at the numbers of other current top 100 prospects? They will start next season with atleast 3 top 100 guys.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) Also worth noting that if a team trades for Samardzija, they would not receive a draft pick when he left, which will reduce the quality of offers available to us in trades as well. Not really. If the team trading for him doesn't give up atleast something comparable to a comp pick, you dont move him simple as that. There is no motivation for the Sox to move him for anything less than that. There is zero chance he accepts the qualifying offer.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 07:12 AM) Seriously people need to stop mentioning Anderson as though he's going to be a saviour for this ballclub. From his AA performance any other team would be skeptical about him ever being an MLB regular, let alone "ready in 2 years". Compared to last year, his batting average is down but still ok and around .300, but he's hitting extra base hits at only 60% of the rate of last year so his slugging has plummeted, he has a .323 OBP and a whopping .715 OPS, he's on pace to strike out over 100 times while walking 20 or so times this year, and he's made a bunch of errors at short. "I've got a guy at AA with a .715 OPS" isn't a message that sells me on him even being an MLB regular, let alone worth having his name in a list of guys you'd consider "ready to help this club in 2 years". He still has talent, he has speed, he still is piling up the hits, but any reasonable organization would see his performance this year and think "ok, let's be patient and take our time, he has a lot to learn even at these levels". A reasonable organization would see that performance and slide him back to a mid 2017 arrival at the earliest barring a huge improvement, and then that reasonable organization would expect there's a good chance he'll need to struggle for a year or two at the big league level if he ever can take hold of a starting position. That org would also realize there's a good chance he completely busts and can't handle a position or the strikeouts pile up even more as he faces better pitching and becomes just another guy who drifts around after getting a short shot and come up with other plans. If he does better than that, great, but stop penciling him in as even a future big league regular until we see him earn it. I think 2B is ultimately Anderson's ultimate position. Following him closely this year, it appears a lot of his errors are coming on throws. While it sounds like his range would play at SS, Im thinking his arm is the big problem.

Sox probably already have a deal with Fulmer in place, they are just respecting Vandy's CWS run and not announcing it until after they are finished. What is the rush? He's not going to throw that many innings anyways.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 07:55 AM) I'd still be pretty surprised if he's not the manager next year as well. They want him to be the manager it seems. Bruce Levine said today that from the intel he's gathered, "they're going to fire the players". Should be interesting at least. Also heard that this morning. Major indictment on the front office then.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 09:11 PM) Fun bad. Nah this isn't fun. This blew right by fun bad and is bottle of whiskey and handful of antidepressants bad.

Fire everybody.

Beckham at 2nd tonight

Chris Sale's replacement

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) If we lose today did that mean we got swept once or twice? I know it's the same team but technically it's two different series. That would make 3 getting swepts in a row

We are a month and a half away, but let's be serious, the chatter is going to start getting louder within the next week or two. Jayson Stark wrote a column today about potential deadline targets and included Samardzija: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13102518...line-approaches Who would you shoot for from the Giants? Beede? Susac?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) Pitchfork crowd....not pacified in the least. (Although we have proven one thing, that we can rehabilitate guys like Humber and Noesi, to a point...only to dump them for nothing in return but the loss of that valuable playing time and experience which SHOULD have gone to a long-term solution from the minors but couldn't since there was nobody ready in the minors.") Shudders thinking of Carroll facing the Rangers the way they're going right now, which is probably why they want to protect Rodon after his last outing. "Good luck Jamie, take one for the team, buddy!" Jamie Carroll pitches now?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:45 AM) The crowds have been approaching 25k. They have been checking them lately. They also have been checking them while you are sitting in seats by the dugout. I went twice last homestand and they definitely were not

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 10:01 AM) I think Trace Thompson would do the same thing. Johnson is intriquing, but I would give it a couple more starts in AAA. Guerra is up, and I am sure will get more innings when his performances warrants them. I thnk Trayce could potentially be a 1.5-1.8 WAR player even with higher strikeout totals. He deserves a chance.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) that is funny, someone on soxtalk is obsessed with that idea,. People really have no basis for the argument that his K rate is going to skyrocket when he comes to the majors. In the short sample size of his major league career already, he has maintained roughly the same K rate as his minor league career.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:30 AM) A lower deck ticket to a major league baseball game is a pretty good deal. Now if you want to argue calling the baseball the White Sox have been playing major league, you may have a point. If you are south, Metra has a $5 all day pass today. So for $20 you get a ticket to the game and roundtrip transportation. Ya, but they havent been checking tickets all year on 100 level, so why buy a lower when you can buy a s***ty upper for $5 and walk right up to the first row down either line?

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:12 AM) Coop speaks on the Score at 8;40. This might be a good one. I'm sure he'll blame the fans in some roundabout way. Without a doubt, that's the most white sox move ever. Play is bad, but let's blame fans for not getting out to the ballpark to support this team.

That is now the 2nd time Cabrera has done that in the last 2 weeks

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 05:07 PM) If I were to guess, teams have been calling on Shark, Alexei, Duke, Putnam, Petricka, and Robertson. If someone gives you something of value for Duke, you do it. I'd hold onto the rest of those pen guys unless they are expecting Montas and Danish to be in the pen next year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 04:46 PM) There's an old saying that a vote of confidence is the worst thing a manager can get...because that means he needs a vote of confidence. This.

Lip service that placates no one

After reading some early reports, I'm looking at 3 players: Nick Banks Bobby Dalbec Chris Okey

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 07:46 AM) Sadly, this feels like a Blackhawks situation where this team will never be back on track until ownership changes. This is by far the scariest part of the whole thing. Jerry seems complacent with winning his 1 world series and has already mentioned he wants the team sold when he dies. That does not sound like an owner that wants to do anything to win.