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In a vacuum, Vientos isn't a bad return. It isn't an overly inspring return, but Robert has fallen so far that we have to temper our exceptions on what we get back. The issue is Vientos' fit on the Sox, and Getz targeting a guy already in the bigs who may not be around by the time they are legitimately on the upswing. If Vargas weren't around, Vientos would make more sense, but both is too redundant IMO.

Niether of them are SS. Acuna is a 2B whose bat lends itself more to a Utility role. Mauricio is pretty solid at 3B so far, but he's the youngest and best of the names listed, and there's no way in hell the Mets are trading him straight up for Robert. The reason why Vientos and Baty keep coming up is because NYM has a logjam with those guys and need to part with someone to give the others ample playing time.

I agree that the time to trade Robert was in 2023 vs now, but there’s a huge difference between what teams were willing to offer in 2016/17 vs now or even a few years ago. If the hauls Hahn got back are the measuring stick, we will be disappointed in the return no matter what.

Vientos > Vargas at 3B. Not that either should be viewed as the longterm solution.

Miguel Vargas as the headliner was always dumb for where the roster is.

Sox are already burning service time on a number of young players, but aren't remotely close to winning. Adding another in Baty just doesn't make sense IMO.

Houser is certainly worth less than Fedde, but maybe Gety won't be completely bamboozled this time around...

Just don’t embarrass yourselves please White Sox. I know that’s asking a lot.

‘Diminishing Skills’, but you want to keep him for four more years. Yet you fail to see why people can’t take these posts seriously.

Is he really an old friend when he played for nearly every team?😆

And this necessitated bringing his name into a thread that had nothing to do with him?

What the f*** does this have to do with anything?

This part.

Do it Getzy, tease 4 Cease! (for legal purposes, this is in fact a joke.)

Chuck knows not to bite the hand that feeds him.

Getz will likely burn $20M filling out the roster with garbage, and not spending $20M on a single player will no doubt keep the boss happy.

Possible, yes, but putting it out there in late July feels like an empty threat. It’s is hard to see a scenario where Jerry ok’s the option, so Getz is really only playing chicken with himself.

100%

Well said.

Which is why I'm always baffled when they don't take full advantage of the Rule 5 draft. They should be scowering other orgs for 'diamond in the rough' types, even if its just for depth. Cuz it's not like the Sox have a loaded system overflowing with talent all needing roster spots.

Guys in the low minors don't tend to need Rule 5 protection though. If they can't advance to higher levels after 5 years, the risk of losing them is low. Or aren't a huge loss if they do get taken. Not really sure what you're worried about in this line of thinking.

Which makes offering a bag of balls for the Sox fodder barely worth the effort to me.

Yeah, you purporting such doesn't make this true. I have never claimed anyone was overvaluing Robert. It wouldn't take much of a rebound for Robert to be worth his $20M option IMO. Him taking a $10M AAV contract running through his age 32 season is a fairly absurd assertion. If he were to rebound to a league average bat, I think he would be worth a $4/80M gamble for a contender not worried about pinching pennies.

True, but Maruicio is the only one I would be interested in. The other two would give me Vargas trade vibes.

I think they really like Mauricio. It will take more than Robert IMO.