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Exactly. Maddox was a soft tossing finesse/control guy. I don't even know if he threw a slider. Guys throwing mid 90s weren't commonplace even in the 1990s. There is a big big difference between the wear and tear on the arm, elbow, and shoulder today than even the 80s and 90s. Countless pitching analysts say that guys are max-effort throwers now. I'm no kinesiologist, but the data is readily available. It's not hard to figure out why guys aren't throwing 250 innings any more. Calling that coddling is willfully ignorant.

Seriously, give it time.

Did Maddox throw 100mph repeatedly day after day year round? Did any of the guys throwing 250-300 innings back then? Did they snap off countless sliders as well? A pitch that wreaks havoc on elbow tendons? The answer is no. Guys throwing near 100mph and over were rare when 4 man rotations and 300 innings were commonplace. I'm not disputing history here, but if you think guys throwing 100mph isn't max effort, or that how arms are handled today is coddling, then I don't know what to tell you.

Zero within a small sample size is still zero.

Anyone know the statistical probability of back to back hit by pitches happening? Or a HBP and a passed ball?

As yes, knuckle dragging drunken frat boy Wrigleyville transplants are peak human normality…

A lineup that strikes fear in every opponent…?

Now now, we can’t go expecting Pedro to use actual data when making the lineup now can we?

Yes, pitchers throwing hundreds of max effort pitches is coddling.?

That's what I'm guessing too.

How long can we reasonably expect a pitcher new to starting and without many innings under his belt to go out every 5 days and throw 80+ pitches? I'm not against him being a starter. He obviously has the talent to do it. I question whether his body has been conditioned to do so, injury history aside. The Sox braintrust doesn't exactly inspire confidence that they will manage his innings to maximize said immense talent for that matter either.

At some point the lack of innings will catch up to him. I just hope it doesn’t result in serious injury.

The ump was bad, but the batters were worse.

Stone also got the memo. Not only is the team abysmal, the broadcast will be insufferable all damn year too.

Pretty sure this would fall under manipulation of the IL and MLB could nail them on it. Crochet still has options anyway. If they need to skip a few starts there are ways to do it w/o bending the rules.

They looked just as bad offensively for the majority of spring training. Its not and won’t be just against good pitching.

Like, be as positive and optimistic as you wanna be. But if you’re literally going to make s%*#, up expect to be called on it.

Yes, fabricating narratives then attempting to gaslight the responses sure seems measured to me. ?

Crochet was really really good. Better than most of probably figured he would. Defense was ok. No massive boneheaded mistakes but. Wouldn’t call it great though. Maldonado was definitely the weakest link. The offense was as clueless as the stats suggest.

Pedretz? Gedzro? Some other unholy amalgamation of the two?

Not just the bullpen...

Personally developed? Personally? What in the f*** are you talking about? Crochet was great. But talk to me when he repeats this every 5 days all season long.

I willingly listened to Len Kasper, and I have no love for Len Kasper...

John 'Walking Talking Point' Schriffen