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Bummer living up to his name as a pitcher.

I've read where forearm pain is a strong indication of a serious issue to come usually ending up with TJ surgery.

Can't say I'm surprised.

Sure they can and will

I'm assuming you mean individual results since the team is 0-3-1. I agree some players that are going to have to step up have shown well, but it is early in spring training.

With this current roster it's hard to see them winning over 70 games even if some of the kids come through. far to many question marks and "if' this happens..."

And the dumpster diving begins!

Still pushing this line from your "sources"? Bottom line is this, JR has repeatedly said and PUBLICLY said multiple times that HE IS NOT SELLING. Period...end of story. Because of the monstrous hit his family would take via capital gains taxes it is better financially to keep the team until he dies, then his heirs won't have that burden. He has also publicly and repeatedly said he has advised his family to keep the Bulls and sell the Sox. Others have tried to buy the Sox from him in the past 10 years or so, including the Chicagoan who now owns the Cubs South Bend franchise. He said he offered to buy them twice but each time JR said no, so he gave up and is now in bed with the Cubs. (There was a big story on this in the Tribune) Mark Gonzales told me the former owner of the Memphis Grizzlies offered to but the team from JR. Again he said no. That person wound up passing away from an illness by the way so in the long run perhaps it was a good thing JR did not sell to him. The point is this, while it's clear JR is the bane of this franchise (and the Bulls) until death claims him, he isn't going anywhere and he will not sell. Right or wrong that's reality and we better get used to it.

I'm sure the vast majority of Sox fans wanted JR gone years ago. However that's not happening, He has publicly stated he is keeping the team until he dies because of tax purposes (capital gains specifically). Then he has told his family to keep the Bulls and sell the Sox.

The Cubs added top free agents when the time was right to supplement the "kids." It still isn't clear if the Sox will be able to do the same.

That's my recollection although I think it was on a pitch before he struck out from Cliff Lee.

Bruce Levine is reporting tonight that the Sox do not believe in opt-out clauses and did not offer one to Machdo.

Can't blame you at all man for feeling the way you do. It's clear ownership simply refuses to understand the way the negotiating game is played today given the reported limitations. What top free agent in their right minds would take that offer? Nothing changes with this organization until ownership changes. If that wasn't clear in the past, it is today.

Merkin reported he won't start baseball activities for 12 weeks for whatever that's worth.

That's a pretty poor list.

Saw this recently and to me it's a terrific summary of the entire situation since numbers and quotes are now out and it seems the Sox never were really in the mix: * Sox have never shelled out more than 68 million on a player, one of only four MLB teams to have never given out a nine figure deal. * Sox FO told fans for months, "the money will be there." Things are different now... * Most Sox fans believed the hype and felt times were changing * Sox fail to land Machado because of a low-ball offer. * Sox FO makes excuses (i.e. Kenny Williams) The end result? Most Sox fans will NEVER trust or believe anything this front office ever says again.

Very disappointed and very angry. However I want to see more information (and it will leak out) before coming to any final conclusions. What was the Sox offer? What was San Diego's offer? Did the Sox get a chance to match it or improve on it? Things along those lines. If however the answers don't reflect the Sox organization in a good light than in my opinion, any and all attacks upon ownership and the front office are totally justified.

Remember these guys and their agents have tremendous ego's. They want the most money, they want that historic record breaking deal, they want a lot of things. Neither is going to want to give up that "dream" for wont of a better word, quickly or easily.

Well...since you brought it up: May 15, 1951 – It was a testament to the managerial genius of Sox skipper Paul Richards. It had been 30 years since the league saw a move like this. In the ninth inning of a game in Boston where the White Sox were winning 7-6, relief pitcher Harry Dorish was removed in favor of Billy Pierce to face the left handed hitting Ted Williams, only Dorish wasn’t removed from the game! He was moved to third base. Pierce retired Williams on a pop up, then was taken out of the game and Dorish put back on the mound. Boston eventually tied the game but the White Sox would have the last laugh, winning 9-7 in 11 innings. The victory marked the start of a 14 game win streak, with 11 of the wins on the road. On May 30 after sweeping the St. Louis Browns, the Sox record stood at 26-9.

It will be fixed...after the next labor impasse / lockout / strike in 2021. The two sides will figure out a way to make signing free agents attractive again to teams.

Yet the Marlins somehow have two World series titles under their belt. Baseball really is a funny game.

Frank Robinson - It has recently come out that the Sox were in the hunt for Frank Robinson before the start of the 1966 season as well. When the Reds gave notice they were willing to deal Robinson, whom they considered a ‘malcontent,’ Sox G.M. Ed Short immediately contacted Reds G.M. Bill DeWitt with an offer. The report said that when all was said and done, the White Sox offer was better then Baltimore’s, yet DeWitt sent Robby to the Orioles. In return Cincinnati got pitchers Milt Pappas and Jack Baldschun and outfielder Dick Simpson, one of the worst deals in baseball history. The Sox offered outfielder Floyd Robinson, pitcher Johnny Buzhardt and a third player, possibly All-Star relief pitcher Eddie Fisher (the Sox had the deepest bullpen in the league at the time) With those players Cincinnati won 76 games in 1966. With Robinson winning the Triple Crown, the Orioles swept the Dodgers in the World Series and their dynasty began.

This is interesting: https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090 Story says Manny "turned down" the Sox offer of 175 million "recently." First time I've heard of this one.

Robby had a great quote about how he competed against Hank Aaron (a man he respected and visa versa) "If Hank hit one (home run), I wanted to hit one. If he hit two, I wanted to hit two. If he hit three? I stayed at two!" (LOL)

WBAL in Baltimore is reporting that Hall of Famer Frank Robinson is dead at the age of 83 from bone cancer. Fabulous player who never took any ****. MVP, many times an All-Star, won the Triple Crown in 1966. First African-American manager in MLB. Also he was a guy the Sox tried to get in the 60's, the offer they made to Cincinnati was better than the one they eventually took from Baltimore. Another one of those "might have been" that changed the course of the franchise. RIP to truly a great, great player.