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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) Robertson is not going anywhere IMO., However, Danks and Laroche could be. Might not be at waiver deadline but this off season is a strong possibility. Trading Danks will be difficult since he has trade restrictions in his contract.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 09:00 PM) Ventura wouldn't have the courage to limit Shark's starts entering FA. He'll find Johnson a few starts though in place of Rodon. Those decisions are usally made by the GM. Hahn should have an idea what he wants to do w Shark and Danks for sept. I am sure he will also decide how Micah should be used.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 12:48 AM) Melky is really a bad baseball player any way u slice it. He's another guy who should be a utility player. Sox roster is full of those guys. Not making 14 Mil

QUOTE (ottawa_sox @ Aug 29, 2015 -> 03:31 PM) I'd just as soon have Melky at the plate with the game on the line, as anyone not named Abreu on this team. And his TV persona is easy to like. He seems to have fun, while giving maximum effort. Now, someone like Rios, with is smug, lackadaisical "I don't give a s***" attitude - there was someone to dislike. No excuses there. I wanted to make excuses for Gillespie - his pained, 'fear of failure' look was grating, but it made me give him a grace period. Like I was hoping his confidence or his power or a sports psychologist would show up FWIW-- Avi has 9 game winning RBI's compared to Abreu w 6. Melky has 12

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 29, 2015 -> 02:21 AM) I think our rebuilding is going pretty well. So well that we took a shot at the WS this year, year 2. So well that alot of you are pissed we didn't do better. You're pissed because, well, damn it actually looked pretty decent on paper after only a one year core-flip. Stay the course fellas. Don't jump ship. We're getting better not worse. I am not so sure. We lost 89 games last year and are on pace to lose 85 this year. We finished 4th in the division last year and probably will this year. Not sure that is a lot of progress. I think we have brought in some younger players which is good but also we have also developed 2 more problems in 3rd and RF. On the plus side we did add Fulmer.

I would like to see them shift him around the outfield and see how he handles all 3 positions. That will give plenty of opportunities to see him hit as well. Then go to SP w some insight to his hitting as well as the position he most helps the team out in.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 01:15 PM) His bat is insufficient for 2b...probably. But if you go by the last 2 months only, he's okay there. But we do have Micah. And fine, trade him for a 3b, but jettisoning him to the minors in May doesn't max his value. He needs to play regularly over the next 5 weeks. I think Micah would have to be a throw-in as part of a trade for 3B. Now if he comes up and shows he can play ML defense, then his trade value changes. Even though offensive numbers in September can be skewed, defensive play is not.

QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 26, 2015 -> 10:21 PM) The thing is if this team could have made a little winning streak they could have had a chance. tonight is a reminder of how much of a failure the coaching staff is. A game they really needed against a bad team. And this is what they produce. Boston lineup had a bunch of players that were not on the team in June. But they took 2 of 3.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 25, 2015 -> 05:23 PM) Yes. Plenty of pieces to get deals like that done. I doubt you get Longoria without including Q or Rodon.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 26, 2015 -> 01:08 AM) Sanchez is now into positive WAR territory. He's absolutely earned the starting role at 2B headed into spring. If the ORG can bring in someone on the cheap that is a 4 WAR player well hell in that case forget Sanchez, but when that doesn't happen, start him. He's earned it. If he was more highly touted we'd be ecstatic about a slick fielding 23 year old 2B that seems to have a little pop in his bat as well. He's never gonna hit more than 270/320/400 but with his glove at 2B that's an above average starter in today's game. .270 is good but he could also be .230 ish

Everyone in lineup has a hit. What an offense......................

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 25, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) How Thompson isn't starting every game is beyond me With 3 OF spots he should be.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 25, 2015 -> 09:22 PM) Yep. Gotta blame Robin for calling it. FWIW---Red Sox Remy said it was a good bunt, better play by the pitcher, dumb call in that situation.

Trayce-Alexei-Soto= Moe Larry Curley so far.

Kelly is awful. The White Sox will get runs against him.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 22, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) Add Erik Johnson to the list. Assuming we lose Shark, we're most likely counting on Johnson to fill the #4 spot next year. It would be nice to give him an extended look in a lost season and be a bit more confident in counting on him for 2016. I agree as well but the production in September is still tainted by the level of play of some teams. Boston comes into Chicago this week and they have unlaoded their AAA roster into the majors. You will certainly need a scorecard. I have been pushing for a few months that the White Sox should trade Q to Boston for one of the young catchers ( Swihart), one of the young outfielders (Bradley) + a young pitcher. But w Dombrowski's arrival, I think that ship has sailed. Rumors are he will go after Price in the offseason.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 23, 2015 -> 10:53 PM) Where do you guys get the idea that Sanchez is slow? Just because he doesn't steal bases doesn't mean he doesn't have any speed. It is not he doesn't have speed. But only having 3 doubles in 150+ plate appearances is incredibly low. Compare that to Sanchez w 20 in 280+. Could be a sign that Saladino is not hitting gaps w his hits or he is very slow out of the box.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Aug 23, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) On some level, Saladino could be the "good, young 3B" you want us to trade for, one that we won't have to trade Q for. As you mentioned, at least the D is there, and the bat has some potential, and we know he's got good speed on the base paths. Personally, I'd like to give him at least half a season more at 3B before moving him to a utility role. The other issue is there is virtually no other "good, young 3B" available for trade who isn't an all star caliber player. Moustakas, Duffy, Bryant, and Seager fit the criteria, but those teams aren't looking to trade them. We do??? Saladino in 153 AB has 2 doubles. To put that in contrast, Sanchez in 286 AB has 20. Boni ( 78) and Beckham ( 181) each have 8. So Saladino is strictly a singles hitter since he is getting some singles but is not able to turn them into doubles.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Aug 23, 2015 -> 09:23 AM) Why does everyone want to trade Quintana? It doesn't make sense unless you're getting a guy like Frazier our Arenado in return, and even then, Q should be pretty much the entire package. His value is insane, and a package that was suggested earlier in this thread for just Arenado (which included Montas, Micah Johnson, and Adams) should, in addition to someone like Arenado, net the team a young, proven 125+ wRC+ catcher with great defense. If we're not getting something worth 5+ WAR and cost controlled for Q, then why not keep the trio of cost controlled lefties that are likely to produce 15-18 WAR at the top of the rotation for the next 4+ years? You get two decent starters behind that, and you have the potential for a 20-25 WAR rotation, which is a playoff rotation with even a decent bullpen and offense. This year the cost controlled trio of lefties has a good bullpen, a lousy offense and they are 24-22 this year. You can keep them but you have to find a way to add 2-3 pieces to the offense. Unfortunately the chance to add one piece for Shark didn't happen. So you trade Q and should get 2 pieces in return or you gamble and trade a few minor league pieces and hope you hit on 2 pieces in return. Or you use 2016 as a wait and see on the young players and continue to be a .500 team

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 23, 2015 -> 12:46 AM) With this rotation? Absolutely. I feel like the Sox are a team that could easily win the World Series, but they aren't good enough to make the playoffs. If that makes sense. I agree. If they just made the playoffs and every tam they played got caught deflating the baseballs they could win it all.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 22, 2015 -> 01:24 PM) Still too weak of an offense in my opinion if you have Saladino, Sanchez and Anderson at 2b-3b. To me, the ideal scenario is Anderson at SS, Sanchez at 2B, Saladino the utility player and Johnson traded. 3B will have to come from outside the org. No, I said if Anderson showed some powerbut the glove was a problem, perhaps he could be a 3B candidate. If 2B and SS have no power, 3B has to.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 06:51 PM) He has a pretty live bat. I think we'll see the power come. I think the question w Anderson is his fielding progression at SS. At some point soon, the FO needs to decide what his future position is. We do not want another 2nd baseman. If he develops some power and SS does not work out at least 3B could be a fall back. The young players in the organization at 2B should be adequate.

QUOTE (staxx @ Aug 22, 2015 -> 09:37 AM) Lifetime milb .288 hitter and improved each time he was promoted after getting the hang of it. He could very well be a .265-.275 hitter in the bigs. He could which w his glove would be great. But he also may be in competition w Micah and Saladino for the 2B job next spring. Hopefully the Sox upgrade 3B and SS or use Saladino as a placeholder at SS.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 22, 2015 -> 04:47 AM) Excellent post. It was a very bad decision as it turned out to go with the sieve Micah over vaccuum Sanchez. Actually I think the problem was they had Saladino, Sanchez, Davidson and Johnson all needing a year in AAA but only 3 positions. Maybe the front office figured the offense was questionable coming out of the spring and so they went w the offensive option in Johnson. Or they actually thought Johnson could play in the majors at that point since they also were questionable at 3rd in the spring. Either way, they started the year w some serious infield holes

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 08:03 PM) I'd be willing to take that risk of gambling with two slots in our 2016 rotation if we can further develop Fulmer and Montas in preparation for 2017. It would be the most intelligent move made by the organization in years. Sale/Rodon/Danks/Johnson/Whomever won't win any titles, but having Quintana and a similar lineup as this season won't either. Quintana almost has to go. I'd be disappointed if he remained for another season, which lets be honest -- 2016 will more than likely be another mediocre season. We should all be estatic to be trading from a position of strength. If Quintana could land us one quality ML player and one top ten offensive prospect, I'd jump all over it. By the time either Fulmer or Montas (perhaps both) are ready we could have one hell of a rotation in 2017. We'd just have to be willing to throw caution to 2016, which I know many on here will make excuses to explain why it would never happen I actually think Q could bring back 2 quality ML players