TheFutureIsNear

Count me in as another person done with the Robert era. I’m over gambling on the resurgence and don’t want to be left holding the bag of just paying him to continue to be bad on a bad team. Get what you can and continue to turn the page of the dreadful past few years of this organization. Jerry needs to not be Jerry and eat $ to maximize the return though

If everything goes well I could see 75 wins…which is competitive compared to the past 2 years. Still a good bit to go in order to be actually competitive in terms of making a serious playoff run though.

Add 1 more bat at RF or 3B and figure out who deserves a starting spot between Vargas/Sosa/Baldwin/insert name of fringe player on the roster

Like I said I don’t want him…but depending on the prospect return it could be well worth it. It’s only a 1 year so the risk is pretty minimal. Castellanos has been at odds with Thompson/the Phillies for a couple of years. Who knows, maybe if you give him the RF job with no pressure he can turn back into the .250/.315/.470 hitter with 30+ HR power. No doubt he’s an awful RF that drags down his value, but 20 HR’s with a respectable WRC+ at the deadline could draw trade interest as a platoon/DH for a playoff team. Eisert for Casty, Jean Cabrera, and Carson Demartini?

I’d like to see $ spent via an “eating a contract” trade that also nets prospects. Who’s a player that can actually start and be a useful piece while also getting prospect value back? I don’t WANT him…but what kind of prospect(s) do you think we could get back from the Phillies if we took on Castellanos and his full $20M? Casty could easily hit 30 HR’s in our stadium and get traded again at the deadline too. Other names?

I would still like to see 1 more bat added to be honest. I think there’s enough arms in the organization to eat innings, and the $ we are going to spend on a pitcher probably isn’t going to get any real difference maker. Get another viable bat at either 3B or RF and put a solid and exciting lineup out there.

Do they really have a choice? His value certainly hasn’t gone up since getting hurt again at the end of the year. The front office is pretty pot committed to Robert at this point, dumping him for some mediocre prospects wouldn’t make any sense

This team is still so far away that worrying about position fit shouldn’t be a worry at the moment. Unless Quero/his agent are pushing for a full time catching gig only, I don’t see why you can’t get all these guys AB’s. We don’t have a clear 1B or DH option.

100%. I think “value” has become a coping mechanism for fans of loser franchises. And I say that as a fan of several loser franchises.

Good for everyone around Don’t get me wrong, there’s a chance the Jays absolutely regret this…but at least they are going for it. Must be nice

So does Venable get any say in his staff? Or are these all Getz/front office hires? If so is that normal? Genuinely asking because I have no idea.

We definitely need a reliable arm that can throw at least a solid 160+ innings. I think there’s enough young arms to continue the “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” mentality of rebuilding…and don’t commit to anyone as a reliever until you have to. But 1 steadying arm behind Smith should be a priority. Unfortunately that’s going to be easier said than done with a free agent SP on Jerry’s budget.

No, I’d simply like you to show me a stat that shows Varsho has any value as a hitter. But if makes you feel better to cherry pick the 1 stat that overvalues defense and gives validity to your nonsensical argue…you do you man.

This is why people that JUST look at WAR are wildly annoying. .214 batting average with a .700 OPS in 2023. Despite his power hot streak in a limited sample size this year, that’s what Varsho is. He’s a glove 1st OF’er that is a liability in the lineup. He has never, nor will ever, have more value than Cease. His defense would have resulted in almost 0 for the Sox and the prospect package in flipping him would not have been better…regardless of what you think of the result.

Just for the fun of it- Dylan Cease

Just seems like weird timing. Why not fire them before the season when you hired a new head coach? I just don’t like the idea of calling up all of “the kids” and then having them adjust to new coaching in the off-season. Let’s just hope they seek the best available coaches from any/all resources (aka not within the organization) to further develop these young players.

Is there an invention yet where we can merge Sosa and Meidroth together and have 1 solid 2B?

The only thing I have to say about the Vaughn situation is…at least I’m not surprised. This was extremely predictable And I still want an investigation into what happens to every Sox hitter. My hunch is it’s something in the water at the stadium, but who knows. I look forward to the future Netflix doc.

Getz needs to hurry up and trade Robert, people’s brains are melting in real time in this thread. Robert got like 8 hits and people are suddenly being picky about the return of arguably the worst hitter in the sport over the past 2 calendar years.

Don’t know anything about the prospects the Yankees gave up, but if the Rockies got anything useful back for McMahon it gives me some more hope about a Robert return

Phillies almost have to take a shot on Robert. There are very few potential impact OF bats available and they won’t be able to get any that are without including Painter or Miller…which they seem unwilling to do. Obviously that wouldn’t be necessary for Robert. Phillies ‘24 2nd Griffin Burkholder is struggling mightily, might be worth a shot as a buy low candidate in a Robert trade.

HS kid with average speed and profiles at best as a solid corner OF doesn’t get me too excited. Doesn’t leave a ton of wiggle on how good he needs to be with the bat.

Mason Neville would be my pick

College OF’er makes a ton of sense. Highest ranked on your board left out of: Irish, Summerhill, LaViolette, Cannarella, Neville

Not at all upset with the pick, Carlson is a top 10 worthy talent. Unfortunately it’s just hard to be optimistic about this franchise developing a raw hitter.