TheFutureIsNear

Sox are going to have 1 of the most exciting lineups in baseball on day 1 and are only going to add Madrigal shortly... Hahn and co actually proved us wrong. Good for them, I have no problem eating crow. A lot more left to do on the field of course.

According to a writer from mlb.com (Mark Feinsand) Harris is weighing offers with multiple years at 6-7M per year. If we can get him at 2/14 we should have already paid the man. I don’t even have a problem at 3/21. The only obvious issue is his age, but he’s out produced that kind of contract easily. Even if he’s crap the 3rd year, 6-7 mil isn’t a significant enough amount to really hinder the team. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/will-harris-weighing-offers.html

Sure, but who’s left in the system as a pitching prospect? Of the guys we won’t be relying on to contribute in the majors this year it’s pretty much only Dunning, Stiever, and the 2019 draft class as decent SP prospects in our system. I’d prefer to not trade Stiever unless it’s in a package for a guy like Hader or someone dominant.

Wonder what prospects we have that are actually tradeable and have any value? If we are going to trade something for a reliver given what's still on the free agent market it better be someone with at least 2 years of control + a good track record. Unless its someone with closer or at least lockdown 8th inning potential l I have a hard time giving up much more than Sheets or Gonzalez as the best prospect for a reliver, MAYBE Basabe. Should be interesting...if what Stone is alluding to is actually correct of course. Maybe there's a bad team out there that would take a chance on Fulmer for a reliever? Something like Fulmer and low level prospect is fine

Lol what a bad post. You sound like you have some weird personal agenda against Collins. In what world do you live in where it’s bad to have too many good, young, and cheap hitters? Abreu and Encarnacion are old, injuries happen, Vaughn isn’t a sure thing, exct...I can ramble off 20 good reasons to not just get rid of a mostly successful prospect that was drafted in the top 10. Just relax and let it play out, no need to rush anything unless someone really blows us away with a trade offer.

If either can be had on 1 year deals I’d be happy with Strop or Rondon.

I really hope the Sox saw something different and think they can make an improvement. Because if we traded 1 of our top 10 prospects to sit a guy on the bench for a year it’s going to be pretty dumb

Yeah if he hasn’t been humbled yet with the way his career came to a screeching hault there is probably a real problem going on between his ears

Before DK and EE I would have been all for Puig. Take the gamble on catching lightning in a bottle with his potential on a team I didn’t think was heading to the playoffs. But if we are in win now mode having Puig as a platoon bat seems like a ticking time bomb not worth playing with. Especially since he’d theoretically be the bad side of the platoon with only facing lefties. Say what you want about him, but we better not have traded Steele Walker to have Mazara as a 4th OF’er for 1 year.

I think the Sox can actually pretty easily carry both all season... 26 man roster= C- Grandal 1B- Jose 2B- Madrigal SS- TA 3B- Moncada LF- Eloy CF- Robert RF- Mazara Bench- Luery, Mendick, McCann, Collins, Engel Thats only 13 of 26 with a pretty versatile bench. SP- Gio, DK, Cease, Lopez, Gio Long/mop up- Fulmer Middle- Marshall, Frye, Cordero, ? (Hamilton/Guerro/Burdi/Free Agent) Set up- Bummer and Herrera Closer- Colome Obviously you can debate if being in the minors is best for Collins in that scenario, but I don’t see roster spots as an issue. EDIT: After all that I realized I forgot EE. So yeah, I guess Collins in the minors is likely to happen. Although a McCann trade wouldn’t shock me.

Robert Moncada Jose Eloy Grandal Encarnacion TA Mazara Madrigal The more I think about it the more I’m actually really excited. I will gladly pay to watch that lineup every night.

Bummer belongs in the 8th...I don’t think any righties in our pen other than Herrera have 8th inning stuff though. I’m comfortable with Fry, Marshall, and Cordero as the primary 6th/7th inning guys, but I think we lack 1 more RH we can count on in high pressure 7/8 inning situations. I’d love to think Herrera will be healthy and better next year, but it’s a risk I’m not willing to take if we are trying to compete with the Twins for the division. I’d like a second option. I agree not overpaying, but I’m not sure anyone left is getting much of a deal anyway. I’d hesitate to give anyone more than 2/12 guaranteed. If we do indeed sign EE I think McCann could be a good candidate to trade for a RP. If he has a role as back up C/DH platoon it makes sense to keep him, but as a pure back up that only starts 20 or so games a year I say maximize whatever value he has in a trade. The A’s don’t have a C...McCann for Yusmeiro Petit or Joakim Soria? I also think Collins could net us a pretty good reliever with a few years of control if we go that route.

I think a reliable RH 8th inning guy is needed. No way we can go into the season thinking Herrera is that guy.

You don’t think it’s a little disingenuous to add everything together and ignore that he made legit progress in his 2nd year in the OF? Obviously he’s still not good in the OF, but there’s a lot of hyperbole to your posts. -9 DRS for a guy going to put up a 120/130 wRC+ hitter is palatable in my opinion. I obviously don’t value RF defense as much as you do, but that’s fine. Nothing wrong with disagreeing. I just personally think it’s a little crazy to think the world would crumble and the Sox couldn’t win if Castellanos is in RF.

Based on what metric?

I’d much rather go after a RF’er than a DH. I don’t want Mazara playing RF defense much, nor should he be in the lineup vs LHP’s. Castellanos and Puig are about the only FA OF’ers that profile as a RF...and both leave a good amount to be desired with their D. Some trade targets still out there: Joc would still be nice, even tho he would need a platoon as well. Reddick would probably be pretty cheap to acquire from the Astros Same with Markakis from the Braves Haniger from the Mariners would be pretty ideal. Grandal Keuchel 1 of Joc/Haniger/Puig/Reddick Gio A RH RP like Bellances/Rondon/Strop I don’t think anyone could have complained about that offseason 2 months ago. Obviously everyone wanted Wheeler over Keuchel, but at least there was a plan B.

I believe we were in the low 90’s before Gio and Keuchel. So we should be right around 115 now. That 82.5 on spotrac is only 12 guys, and it has all the young guys at 0....filling the roster to 26 will add a decent chunk of $

Not going to pretend to have watched him much...but DRS and UZR are not fans

As long as he can gel in the locker room I don’t hate the idea of Puig. Taking a flyer on Souza being healthy wouldn’t be a terrible idea either. Domingo Santana and Dickerson are decent options too, although they come with defensive ability in RF ?’s. A trade is always a possibility too. I wonder if we can get Seattle to trade for another questionable catcher with an enticing bat? Some sort of Collins for Haniger deal would be nice

Hopefully the 4th year isn’t an easily obtainable vesting option, but happy with 3/55. The staff is now complete...let’s not stop with RF. I can live with a Mazara/McCann platoon at DH.

I think it would be much easier to figure out a list of White Sox free agent signings that were not washed up when they got here.

Lol come on now...I get the frustration but this is ridiculous. It sucks, but the Sox aren’t going to be competing for a WS again next year. Knowing that info I can’t see why anyone would be so upset about not signing mediocre free agents. Cleary they will fill the rotation with someone. Does it rally make you fee better watching the Sox win 78 games with someone like Wade Miley vs 74 wins with someone else? b**** about the front office being cheap and not putting a real contender on the field all you want, but this angst over not signing insignificant free agents is crazy to me.

Mine actually just magically fixed itself in the past few days. I was having to request the desktop site for about 2-3 weeks straight and now no issues again.

I don’t doubt there’s a handful of teams that would be interested in McCann, but what could his value possibly be on a 1 year deal? Maybe trade him for a reliever with years of control? I can’t see getting anything significant for him so might as well keep him.

Plan B: Trade Fulmer and Basabe for Price +$27M, Michael Chavis, and Tanner Houck Sign Keuchel, Corey Dickerson, and Pedro Strop (Or pick your favorite reliever)