Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) I don't think you could snag Yelich without trading Kopech or Hansen Yeah Yelich is locked up for 5 more years and is 25. The floor of a deal is the Eaton trade.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) MLB Daily DishVerified account @mlbdailydish The Nationals and Bryce Harper have had preliminary extension discussions: https://www.mlbdailydish.com/2017/12/13/167..._source=twitter … Lock him up. Please end all the Harper to Cubs talk.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) its the Marlins we are talking about here, they practically gave Stanton away Way different situation.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 07:55 AM) Cubs and Indians have talked about Salazar. Indians looking for a LHB. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/cubs...azar-trade.html Could Theo be considering trading his all star kick ball champion, Kyle Schwarber? Lol, cubs interested in another pitcher with an injury history. I think I would definitely trade Schwarber for him.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 05:34 AM) I got dibs on your periwinkle blue unicorn! Lol

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 10:49 PM) His agent also said everyone was notified in November that he had that blood platelet injection in his pitching elbow (as did Tanaka) as a "precaution." Angels said they knew about this before they signed him. Yeah it's not a ton of money invested in him so its all good

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 11:09 PM) Hahn is licking his chops to trade Avi and Abreu and complete the tearing down. Then the heat's on him to get those younguns to the majors and start winning. Oh wait, the heat's not on GMs who rebuild. Fans love the unknown and the window of patience will be at least five more years with Sox fans who like all fans love the rebuild. Alright man time to get off the carousel. How many times do we need to read this exact quote from you?

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:58 PM) News: Los Angeles Angels star Shohei Ohtani has a damaged ulnar collateral ligament in his pitching elbow, according to a physical obtained by Yahoo Sports. Details: yhoo.it/2C9PDCe

Shaw signs with Rockies and Hunter signs with Phillies.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 06:47 PM) I meant as in a premier hitter. I dont think hes proven that yet. Most everyone to get the money he will has hit on another level compared to him. Obviously his contract will become closer and closer to the norm for stars as the years go by, but man it just seems like everyon e is willing to fork over one of the biggest contracts in sports history no questions asked. A free agent of his caliber at his age is rare. Look at what teams were offering Heyward because he was a 26-year old free agent. And Heyward was nowhere near the hitter Machado has been.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:21 PM) Roughly what the Yankees gave up for Stanton should be the market to give someone $300 million. Not at all. Marlins were handcuffed on that deal. All about getting rid of his contract and it was limited to 4 teams, and only 3 of those teams had interest.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:07 PM) Granting a negotiating window does not equate to some notion of surplus value or control, however. I understand it provides additional leverage for the Os but it doesn’t exactly equate to Machado + years and years of affordable control. Dunning and Cease are two valuable commodities that greatly exceed what the Yankees just gave up for Stanton. Eh I still say it can get beat. O's would pretty much have to take different kinds of offers with teams: straight one year rental and then offers with a negotiating window. And then weigh which offer they think is the best and then go through the negotiation window stage. Personally, I think it's moot since Machado probably wants to go to free agency.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 08:58 PM) How much is a team going to pay in prospects to then pay Machado market price? Obviously there’s value to having the negotiating window, just not sure what that price would be. I don't really know but it just seems like that could be beat. Say by the Cardinals for example who almost just took on majority of the Stanton deal. Fulmer and Cease just seems low as it seems both seem more destined to be relievers than starters long-term. Edit: eh I shouldn't have said that about Fulmer but his value isn't high at all currently anyway.

QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 08:54 PM) Cease and Fulmer/Adams is where I personally would be at for a 72 hour window and in terms of a contract 350M with an opt out after 4 years and a complete NTC. Move him to short and move TA to 3B/OF I would also be blowing up Miami for Yelich, going off of last years #'s his surplus value is roughly 95.5M. Move Abreu and Avisail for prospects add them to the offer. They want 2 arms for one year of Machado. With a window to negotiate and possibly come to a long-term deal, why would people think it wouldn't take more?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 08:48 PM) I’d do Cease and Dunning if I got the window. Lol it wouldn't be that simple. If teams could get a window, the price goes up. Other teams could beat that.

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 06:02 PM) Man, I disagree with all of this. I don't think anyone is suggesting the Sox acquire Machado for 1 year and just roll the dice, unless the acquisition cost would be minimal, which we all know won't happen. If they can get a 72 hour window for an extension, it's worth some semi-serious pieces so you don't have to worry about 29 other teams in FA. Otherwise, no trade. In terms of the Yankees.....no, the Sox rebuild is not doomed because New York may acquire Machado. "Semi-serious?" Other teams could get the extension window and offer serious ones.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) Even if we were able to reach an extension agreement with him as a condition of a trade - I would still want nothing to do with such a swap. Give me Lopez and Gio all day over him. Well it would likely take more if there was an extension agreement, ha. Not that I disagree with you. I also don't think the Sox would pull the trigger on what it would take.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) I'm clearly interested if we're talking about top guys. I'm not sure I'm as interested if we're talking about iffy guys. Our system is pretty full with that right now. I meant Yankees dealing him at 10/ year would probably want some low-level prospects back. He should have value at that price. No way they would deal Ellsbury, half his contract and then a prospect like Frazier on top of it to a team.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 01:15 PM) Nick Burdi, Twins spec, available in Thursdays Rule V draft. Out half of next year with TJS, but certainly a good arm. Are we in a time warp?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:08 PM) You're not getting both of those prospects if they put in that much money. I just posted in the other thread, but at $10m/year, they would be looking to get a couple prospects for him at that price (no top prospects of course).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:07 PM) The rumor is that the Yankees have been willing to eat about half of that. If they ate half of his deal, I don't think it would be much of a salary dump. I think at $10m a year, they'd be looking for a solid piece, not add young pieces to get rid of him.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) Yeah, forget Ellsbury. He's not going anywhere. Gardner is the Yankee to focus on. If the Sox were willing to take on Gardner and his salary, it would alleviate the need for the Yanks to rotate their outfielders through the DH spot and would leave a hole there.. Expand the trade to Yolmer/Abreu (Yanks new DH) for Gardner/Frazier/Sheffield/McKinney. If that's not enough, tell Cashman that Dombrowski is on the other line offering Benintendi. He's actually not getting paid terribly though. And is actually good.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) He's not a boras client Oh for some reason I thought he was. Nonetheless, he still seems likely the type of guy who would lean more towards most money. Edit: Just looked it up. His agency negotiated the Pujols and Votto contracts.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) If Machado wants to be a full time SS should we pursue someone else? Arenado? Donaldson is already in decline Money talks. I think he follows the money (Boras client). If money is very similar if not even, then I would think he would go to whichever team plays him at SS/best chance of winning.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) I would take him on if it means getting a nice prospect like Frazier or Sheffield and SOME cash relief. Maybe like $15M thrown in. He has 3 years left on his deal, but money shouldn't be an issue any of those years. I can't see the Yankees dealing one of those guys if they aren't clearing the entire salary. I would think they would be better off using Frazier in a deal for a pitcher.