Bob Sacamano
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Q may get moved "sooner than you think"
Bob Sacamano replied to Princess Dye's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 12:27 PM) McGuffey's legit. I'd imagine he got a call from someone with the Sox leading to him deleting the tweet. There's a lot of smoke here. Brewers, Yanks, Braves and rockies are the teams. Sox preparing internally for the after effects of a Q trade. They don't want to wait until 7/31. They don't want to feel forced. I think they'll say they don't have to trade him but you can be sure they want to. I think we might be a bit disappointed with return as I've said before. Good stuff. Thanks. -
Jones out for Season, nerve repositioning surgery
Bob Sacamano replied to Lip Man 1's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 11:36 AM) Always sell relievers. ^^^^This -
Q may get moved "sooner than you think"
Bob Sacamano replied to Princess Dye's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I could buy it since the guy with inside sources here (Rabbit) said yesterday a few pages back that he thinks we will be disappointed with the return. Maybe there is motivation to move him in coming weeks and they ultimately budge on their price. -
Q may get moved "sooner than you think"
Bob Sacamano replied to Princess Dye's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Ryan McGuffey @RyanMcGuffey 17s17 seconds ago More While in Miami, was told from strong source that 100 percent, Jose Quintana gets dealt & maybe 'sooner than you think'. #WhiteSox Who the hell is Ryan McGuffey lol -
Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
Bob Sacamano replied to Whisox05's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 10:29 AM) I don't see the Sox getting all that much for the above players, outside of Quintana/Robertson. Melky and Frazier just do not have much value, with the slight edge going to Frazier in value. Pelfrey/Holland/Gonzalez are pretty much worthless via trade Swarzak might get you a piece like Duke did last year, or be a throw in as a part of a larger deal. You're pretty much looking at PTBNL and guys who have struggled in the minors. Scouts gotta dig deep for some hidden gems that could be available. -
QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) Even if Giants trade a bunch of pieces I find it impossible they play as poorly in 2nd half. I know it would be some crazy team ending up with worst record even though Padres looked like they were destined. I would have never guessed Giants thou. I don't even think they will trade a bunch. Just anyone with an expiring deal like Nunez.
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
Bob Sacamano replied to Whisox05's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Sorry for those who see that there is recent post and are let down after clicking in here lol But who takes over for closer when Robertson is dealt? Trying to get a jump on fantasy baseball to add another closer. I personally think it will be Kahnle unless a team overpays for him in July. -
QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 09:20 AM) Bumgarner due back for Giants after the break.. That should help. Hopefully. And I don't think they will trade him either.
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QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 09:09 AM) The way I look at it for Q, is there are a couple teams I could realistically see him going to, and each one of those teams has at least one player they would HAVE to give up if they want Q. Yankees: Frazier OR Torres Brewers: Brinson Astros: Tucker Braves: Albies Red Sox: Devers Cubs: Jimenez OR Happ Rockies: Rodgers Cardinals: Reyes AND Kelley Probably nothing gets done if these teams aren't willing to give up those guys. We saw how firm teams stood with their top guys in regards to a Chris Sale trade, so if a Q trade goes down, I'll be very interested to see the pieces. As much as I would love Torres, I just don't see the Yankees trading him. Frazier on the other hand, I think can go.
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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 08:52 AM) Really enjoyed reading your well-constructed analysis. My Plan that I think is realistic (assuming Sox trade with only top 12 or so organizations) Trade Q for a MLB top 20-50, 1 MLB 50-100, 1 in an org's 5-10 range and one 10-15. Trade Robertson for 1 org 5-10 and 1 10-15 Trade Frazier for 1 org. 10-15 Trade Swarzak for 1 org 10-15 Trade Melky for a lottery ticket on a waiver deal. Pitching prospects are fine throughout, if necessary. Can always trade them - that's how the Sox got Eaton. Everyone seems to want to build via position prospects, so there may be more excess value in pitching prospects (see Eaton Deal #2). Why not before 8/1? Melky can be claimed by a team not that serious about acquiring him in hopes of Sox just let him go for nothing.
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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 08:13 PM) Fernando Tatis Eyes rolled.
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QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 12:27 AM) You REALLY think they're gonna trade in division? I guess I could somewhat see it since we don't plan to compete much under Q's contract... highly doubtful... and you know that. Blah blah blah blah July 31st please blah blah blah blah blah I don't think Q is getting traded within division. A rental type like MelkyI think could.
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QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) +1000 Can't fast-forward through the good parts of summer.
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Really wish we could fast-forward 3 weeks (actually, just the time where I am at work lol).
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Sale vs Scherzer tomorrow, eh?
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 07:18 PM) Anyone remember how my friend and ex is now a webcam girl. Well she's coming in town and wants to come over for dinner. I can't wait till her occupation comes up (my wife won't care) Dear Penthouse...
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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 01:25 PM) Not that interested in Frazier as the centerpiece. Torres, yes. Rutherford yes if surrounded by enough other quality. I'd be more than happy with Frazier as the center-piece. I do think the next 2-3 pieces behind him would be better than if it were Torres. Andujar I think would also be in a deal.
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https://www.pinstripealley.com/2017/7/10/15...s-clint-frazier Not sure if that was posted yet.
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) You would think the Cubs would be interested not just because of need but also to reignite their team. They definitely need to figure out what their OF is going to look like long-term and deal one of Jiminez, Happ, or Schwarber to shore up their rotation. I just don't see where Happ fits in if they're committed to Schwarber in LF. Something has got to give and need to find a way to land a cost-controlled TOR starter. They can't afford to waste the prime/cheap years of their young positional core with the starters they have in place currently. There was an article I came across yesterday about them being open to trading some of the young guys on the roster like Russell (would just put Baez at SS), Baez, Contreras (I don't see this happening at all), Schwarber, Happ.
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Hope they get Q out there. That will be 5 days off (usually get 4 or 5 days depending on an off-day between starts anyway). He'd be set up to pitch the 31st (assuming no one gets skipped next week due to 2 off days on Monday and Thursday).
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 11:59 AM) The great thing about Q is that they can use him next year and the year after, especially helpful when they get Reyes back and effectively would give them a bang up 1/2 punch at the front of the rotation. Carlos Martinez as well.
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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 11:57 AM) Yankees are going to wait until the deadline to assess before making any moves. They likely are not championship contenders this season, and I think they prefer to hang onto their farm assets. I do agree with this. Hell, they were over .500 and ahead of us last year when they sold some guys.
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QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) So, who are the suitors for Q? Astros Yankees Brewers Dodgers Braves Cubs Rockies That's a nice large group of bidders. There were scouts from 10 teams at the one start a few weeks ago.
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I think Verlander eventually goes as a salary dump at some point in the next calendar year. Team trading for him deals 2-3 low B/C level prospects.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) Maybe you are skipping over all of the posts that go out of way to talk about how he isn't that good and Keith Law just ranked him high because he hates the white sox. I see some of those but I see more the other way. I kinda just roll my eyes anytime he is brought up at this point.
