Everything posted by Bob Sacamano
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) I don't blame the Nationals, but they are playing with fire. They cannot expect to catch lightning in a bottle and for a struggling K-Rod to be able to lead a world series caliber bullpen. A trade is beyond necessary, and I'd be shocked if they did not make a move by the deadline for impact relief help Not really a matter of "if" but when. They'll make some serious additions in the next month.
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Reverse Standings Thread
Good weekend for the reverse standings. Too bad they didn't lose 1 more against the Padres when we played them.
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How do you rate the rebuild so far?
QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 09:35 AM) I gave it a 6. Last summer's trades: 8.5 Robert Signing: 9.5 2017 Draft: 7 2017 MLB performance of trade assets: 1.5 Accumulates into a solid 6. Frazier, Jones, Putnam, Petricka, Jennings, Gonzalez all being bad or hurt has really put a damper on what could have been really good to solid trade pieces. And that sucks. All we really have to trade is a fairly paid Robertson who may return 1 decent piece, and then we have two 2 diamond in the rough types in Avi and Kahnle - and who knows how much we'll actually be able to get for those 2. Its a damn shame, and why I wan't on the "tank" bandwagon until after the deadline. Avi, Kahnle, and to a lesser extent Abreu, have really been the only bright spots of 2017. I said all off-season the guy was gonna turn into a pumpkin.
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How do you rate the rebuild so far?
Year 1 of rebuild and they've already added a lot of talent. I give it a 10 so far. Of course, we'll see how it pans out in a few years. If you compare it to the Cubs rebuild, going into year 1 of the season, they only had who, Baez and Rizzo (traded for in off-season before year 1; similar to Moncada) in the system at that point? Everyone else came the followings seasons.
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2017 AL Central Catch all thread
QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 11:51 PM) Tigers lose 1-0 in San Diego. Ausmus got tossed. Something's gotta give. Want them to get hot for the next month.
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6/23 vs Oakland A's
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:55 PM) The fans were cheering like crazy in the ninth wanting to WIN tonight's game. I watched it. I disagree they attended the game tonight as a sign of support for an alleged rebuild. Come on. Gets me every time.
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6/23 vs Oakland A's
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:20 PM) My gosh, all the excuses for some players and not others. Not trying to pick on you, but Rodon just didn't care that much probably tonight so he had the bad outing. Geez. p.s. That was a horrible game against a bad team. Sox come home on a warm June evening and get shut out? That sucks. Had the good hitters up in the ninth but they couldn't come through this time. Tough break on the pop up. Woulda been nice to have a pinch runner in there. He might have made it to second. I still don't know how fans pay for this bad baseball. Sox are lucky 25,000 fans came to see that crap. Simple: fans wanted a rebuild, the team listened and started rebuilding, fams showing a sign of appreciation and support. Also was a nice night to do something.
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2017 MLB Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 06:47 PM) For the Nats, it's not about pressure to compete, it's about trying to keep your roster from killing one another. I'm not sure how many times this point needs to be made. Christ, I knoooow. I get that. I do. I'm saying the front office hasn't gotten to that point of understanding they need to do something soon due to the fact they have a comfortable lead.
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Cheers To The Southside by Mark Buehrle
QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 05:41 PM) 31... I think I had it a little better cuz I can include the earlier 90's Yeah more of Thomas's career.
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) I don't understand why you keep saying "stat lovers." How do you tell how good a baseball player is? By how well they wear their uniform? lol is he trying to insult people by calling them that?
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2017 MLB Catch-All Thread
Red Sox sign Jhonny Peralta....saw that one coming from a mile away. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/red-...ny-peralta.html
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 02:44 PM) Robertson and Q are the only White Sox that are rumored to be trade bait who have value. People that have mentioned Melky and Frazier and the like really surprise me, cause they, especially the stat lovers, should know better. No one here has ever said Melky and Frazier will bring back a lot. Not sure where you're reading that says otherwise.
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2017 MLB Catch-All Thread
Mets and Marlins ready to sell. Exactly why the Nats front office has yet to feel the pressure of needing to add bullpen help. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/marl...echavarria.html https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/mets...m-veterans.html
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Cheers To The Southside by Mark Buehrle
QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) I'm 25 and I gotta agree with you there, we've been lucky to have some greats in front of us pretty much the whole time we've been able to comprehend baseball We mostly had entertaining seasons growing up if you think about. The 2000s they were competitive just about every year.
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Cheers To The Southside by Mark Buehrle
QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) Don't know if any Sox fan will be able to read that without a smile on their face I will definitely shed some tears tomorrow. I did at PK's final game and the number retiring. Definitely grew up at a prime time to be a fan (I'm 26 and started I guess becoming a fan late 90s).
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Quintana
QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 08:21 AM) Just a prediction, but I think this is how it lays out Quintana starts before 7/31: 6-27 vs Yankees 7-2 vs Rangers 7-8 at Rockies 7-18 vs Dodgers 7-24 at Cubs 7-29 vs Indians I think they'll stay away from 7-31 being his start date for obvious reasons, and 7-30 is Hall of Fame day, where I think MLB will tell teams not to take away from that. The Sox have a day game while the speeches are going on. He'll take the ball sooner than the 18th. They're not going to give him 9 days off. Teams always shuffle their rotation at the All Star break. He'll most likely take the ball in that Seattle series (probably that Saturday the 15th). If so, it would line up like this post All-Star break: 7-15 vs Mariners 7-22 at Royals 7-27 vs Cubs His next start would actually be scheduled for 31st if he takes the ball on the 15th against the Mariners (assuming no rainouts or spot starts).
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Tim Anderson
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) He right now is making errors at a record setting rate at SS. His OBP projects to be a disaster during his career. However he has power. Is my projection of .260 (.290 OBP) 17-20 HRs, 70-75 RBIs off base too? I asked if he has any experience at catcher. I think he'd be great there. Many of you are talking outfield. Why isn't that trolling??? It's obvious RIGHT NOW he's a SS for better or worse so why isn't outfield talk trolling? You guys need professional help. Trolling? What an insult. Seriously. I'm a fricking fan against the rebuild, so shoot me. Spell check police are annoying. Switching a guy to OF =/= switching a guy to catcher.
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Cafardo: Cardinals interested in Avi
QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) I would not consider extending him for more than the average MLB salary and I would love it if the Sox traded him next month. Agreed.
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Quintana
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) The Cubs also don't need a reliever and aren't selling low on Schwarber. ? That offer looks like it would be selling high. Not that I think that deal would actually happen or anything.
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Cafardo: Cardinals interested in Avi
QUOTE (Soha @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 09:35 AM) Come on. You think he goes from the brink of being out of MLB to a 140-200 mil deal this fast? That's crazy talk if you ask me. I would consider an extension for Avi, but it caps around 5 years at 50 mil for me. There's way too much risk that he will regress to his old self, and in that case you'd basically be eating 50 mil. And I think he probably would take a 5yr/50 mil deal. It sets him for life. That comes a long way from where he was 3-4 months ago...when some were wondering if he would be playing in Japan soon. I don't see any way he signs for 5/$50 mill. He's close enough to free agency where he would be better off gambling on sustaining this success and becoming a free agent.
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Quintana
QUOTE (pablo @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 09:24 AM) Would love to see the Sox get the Dodgers involved somehow in trade discussions. Kahnle for Verdugo would be a great get. I also love Calhoun but the current influx of Burger, Sheets, Skoug means we might have a lot of all hit-no position players. Either way, I'd still target Calhoun. Maybe target Calhoun with the idea of getting him reps in LF immediately in the minors?
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STAR WARS Everything
QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 02:12 PM) There's a whole joke tangent thread on that on reddit movies. Direct me there! I just started re-watching that show recently. So good.
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STAR WARS Everything
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) I'm hoping for Arrested Development-style narrator voice overs. "I'm going to defeat the Rebellion and take over the galaxy." -Kylo Ren Ron Howard voice over: He didn't.
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Cafardo: Cardinals interested in Avi
QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 01:50 PM) Garcia just turned 26 years old. If he's not part of the rebuild, then they don't know what they are doing. Like I said, if they can extend him (which I think would be premature to do until mid-next year, this offseason at the earliest). No point of just holding onto him for 2 years.
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Cafardo: Cardinals interested in Avi
QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) Greg, how can you POSSIBLY hold this worldview having JUST witnessed the Cubs and Astros turn from total embarrassments into powerhouses by following this exact process? I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but do you literally only pay attention to the White Sox and Royals? I get that it isn't guaranteed success, but man this organization needed to try to do something different.