July 26, 20169 yr Would be nice to get something back to the equivalent of Tatis Jr. Not sure what he'll be in the end because he's very very young still. I'm not sure what Shields' value is considering his just recent streak of decent outings and contact going forward. Would be crazy if they dealt all four starters (Sale, Q, Shields and Gonzalez). The rotation would be ass but we'd have a completely overhauled farm system and maybe some young potential TOR arms to go along with Rodon, Fulmer.
July 26, 20169 yr QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:09 PM) Would be nice to get something back to the equivalent of Tatis Jr. Not sure what he'll be in the end because he's very very young still. I'm not sure what Shields' value is considering his just recent streak of decent outings and contact going forward. Would be crazy if they dealt all four starters (Sale, Q, Shields and Gonzalez). The rotation would be ass but we'd have a completely overhauled farm system and maybe some young potential TOR arms to go along with Rodon, Fulmer. If they trade the rotation, I'd expect Melky, Eaton and Frazier all dealt. Also, aim higher for something like Tatis Jr. That's a name no one but FS guys would know of if not for his inclusion in the deal.
July 26, 20169 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:23 PM) If they trade the rotation, I'd expect Melky, Eaton and Frazier all dealt. Also, aim higher for something like Tatis Jr. That's a name no one but FS guys would know of if not for his inclusion in the deal. If they trade the rotation, they may need Melky, Eaton and Frazier to pitch. Really, if they trade the rotation...................................................
July 26, 20169 yr Well, here's hoping he at least can pull off a QS against the Cubs. That should let teams realize he still has something in the tank against their deadly lineup.
July 26, 20169 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) If they trade the rotation, I'd expect Melky, Eaton and Frazier all dealt. Also, aim higher for something like Tatis Jr. That's a name no one but FS guys would know of if not for his inclusion in the deal. Right but I was merely throwing a name out there because we had to give him up along with Erik Johnson. I don't even know Shields value. Lottery ticket guys?
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Absolutely don't give him away; nor Gonzalez. But if teams offer a premium, trade him. That said, if the Sox do move Sale, I'd be inclined to keep them to preclude more rush ups. I'd rather see Beck than a rush up. This is the way to go. Only trade if you get something of value.
July 27, 20169 yr Another good start for Shields, shutting down one of the best offenses in baseball. Great game for trade value for Cabrera, Shields, and Robertson.
July 27, 20169 yr Author James Shields is available via trade, sources say, and #WhiteSox could capitalize on spike in value: 1.71 ERA over last six starts. @MLB https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/758317066952712192 Shields a fascinating trade candidate: Per reports, #WhiteSox responsible for $22M after this year. Manageable sum to move. @MLB https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/758317505106489344
July 27, 20169 yr That said, if the Sox do move Sale, I'd be inclined to keep them to preclude more rush ups. I'd rather see Beck than a rush up. If Sale is traded, burn it all down. Give me Beck. If you're going to bad, you go mega bad. Get the prospects. Next year is a whatever year-- and see you in 2018
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:15 AM) James Shields is available via trade, sources say, and #WhiteSox could capitalize on spike in value: 1.71 ERA over last six starts. @MLB https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/758317066952712192 Shields a fascinating trade candidate: Per reports, #WhiteSox responsible for $22M after this year. Manageable sum to move. @MLB https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/758317505106489344 Would be amazing to get better value for him than what we gave up.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) If Sale is traded, burn it all down. Give me Beck. If you're going to bad, you go mega bad. Get the prospects. Next year is a whatever year-- and see you in 2018 If you go mega bad it's see you in 2020.
July 27, 20169 yr Realistically what kind of return would he fetch even with the pitching market sky high right now? I just don't see it being worth it unless Ranaudo or Fulmer can step in right now.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) Realistically what kind of return would he fetch even with the pitching market sky high right now? I just don't see it being worth it unless Ranaudo or Fulmer can step in right now. Bring on Volstad and Turner, keep Fulmer in the pen to keep his innings down and let him work on things in game situations more often. If you are dumping anybody out of the rotation it means you are not competing anyway.
July 27, 20169 yr I would happily let him leave if another team was taking on his contract, so getting any prospects back for him would be a bonus.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) I would happily let him leave if another team was taking on his contract, so getting any prospects back for him would be a bonus. His contract is NOT bad. The Sox have him at about $9M/year.
July 27, 20169 yr Shields can opt out after this year though right? If he keeps this up he probably will opt out.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) Shields can opt out after this year though right? If he keeps this up he probably will opt out. He wouldn't be opting out of $9m/year though, he'd be opting out of $22m/year.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 12:06 PM) He wouldn't be opting out of $9m/year though, he'd be opting out of $22m/year. He would arguably be the top FA pitcher this offseason though if he finishes out the season strong. Could lock up similar money to what he's making now for longer than just the next 2 years.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (kevo880 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 01:11 PM) He would arguably be the top FA pitcher this offseason though if he finishes out the season strong. Could lock up similar money to what he's making now for longer than just the next 2 years. He'll be 35 next season, no chance, especially if he doesn't significantly improve his peripherals.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (kevo880 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 01:11 PM) He would arguably be the top FA pitcher this offseason though if he finishes out the season strong. Could lock up similar money to what he's making now for longer than just the next 2 years. He's guaranteed $44 million over the next 2 years. Nobody is going to come close to that.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) He's guaranteed $44 million over the next 2 years. Nobody is going to come close to that. You got that right.
July 27, 20169 yr whitesoxdave makes it sound like the Sox could possibly move Shields. I'd be ok with that.
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 05:26 PM) whitesoxdave makes it sound like the Sox could possibly move Shields. I'd be ok with that. Look back at the last couple pages. We all know "the Sox could possibly move Shields." Lol this is the thread for it. Edited July 27, 20169 yr by soxfan2014
July 27, 20169 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 05:36 PM) Look back at the last couple pages. We all know "the Sox could possibly move Shields." Lol this is the thread for it. Um, ok?
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