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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 06:35 PM)
TOR potential pitchers always trump second basemen.

 

I'm not high on Jose De Leon at all. Forsythe is a really solid baseball player offensively and defensively with a 2018 option. I think they could have gotten more than the 1-1.

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De Leon has shoulder problems... risky move by Rays. Dodgers clearly don't believe much in JDL

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 06:42 PM)
Logan Forsythe got the #33 prospect in baseball.

 

It's things like this that put the requests for Q in perspective.

 

Yep. Preach.

I think De Leon is going to be a number 4 starter when it's all said and done.

Forsythe had put up some pretty impressive war numbers when healthy...has that Maddon/TB positionally flexibility Friedman still apparently covets, and Kiki Hernandez was brutal last year in that role.

 

Also seems like the Twins overplayed their hand. What do they do with Dozier now? They still can't compete with him, and won't pay him to forego free agency.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:01 PM)
Forsythe had put up some pretty impressive war numbers when healthy...has that Maddon/TB positionally flexibility Friedman still apparently covets, and Kiki Hernandez was brutal last year in that role.

 

Also seems like the Twins overplayed their hand. What do they do with Dozier now? They still can't compete with him, and won't pay him to forego free agency.

They'll deal Dozier at the deadline, just got to hope there are more suitors at that time.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 06:58 PM)
I think De Leon is going to be a number 4 starter when it's all said and done.

 

Which isn't a bad thing to be honest.

The Dodgers weren't willing to give up more than De Leon for Dozier it was ridiculous

Lots of smoke that Brett Anderson going to Cubs

Somebody found a tweet from last October where Anderson called some beer throwing Cub fans "f***ing idiots".

Maybe Hahn can take advantage and offer Robertson + cash for Willie Calhoun. He's got nowhere to play for the next couple years now. Could offer Jones instead and expand to Calhoun+

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 06:44 PM)
I'm not high on Jose De Leon at all. Forsythe is a really solid baseball player offensively and defensively with a 2018 option. I think they could have gotten more than the 1-1.

JMHO but a solid 2B is nothing compared to DeLeon's potential. I'm sure they tried to get more than 1-1 but that was the deal they could make. So i don't think they could have gotten more. It's a steal for the Rays.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 10:27 PM)
JMHO but a solid 2B is nothing compared to DeLeon's potential. I'm sure they tried to get more than 1-1 but that was the deal they could make. So i don't think they could have gotten more. It's a steal for the Rays.

 

Dozier is unlikely to repeat, but he put up some unreal numbers in a pitcher's park. Once again, the defensive value is getting so much attention it's almost reverse Moneyball.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 10:30 PM)
Dozier is unlikely to repeat, but he put up some unreal numbers in a pitcher's park. Once again, the defensive value is getting so much attention it's almost reverse Moneyball.

 

Based on the numbers I can find, Target Field played as a top 10 hitters park in the league last year.

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor

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Rockies are making a big push for Greg Holland, and word is they are getting close to a deal

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Rockies are making a big push for Greg Holland, and word is they are getting close to a deal

This is great. Washington could be forced to go to Robertson now. and maybe Colorado gets more serious about adding Q.

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Source: RP Greg Holland and the Colorado Rockies have agreed on a one-year deal with a vesting option for a second year, pending physical.

 

 

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Source: Indians closing in on an agreement with Austin Jackson. Would give them RHed hitting center fielder they've been looking for.

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Source: Indians closing in on an agreement with Austin Jackson. Would give them RHed hitting center fielder they've been looking for.

 

Makes sense since they have 3 left-handed hitting OFs. Although they do have Guyer as well.

 

 

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Source: Indians closing in on an agreement with Austin Jackson. Would give them RHed hitting center fielder they've been looking for.

 

 

Boras did this last year too with multiple agreements right after another.

Indians will do some platooning.

Ventura never was interested. Hopefully the Sox do it when they build the team back up. It's an efficient way to maximize value.

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