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Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go

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  • Guys...I feel like losing Quintana would hurt the most. What is everyone's thoughts on keeping him? Maybe he can be the Ace of the next good Sox team.

  • http://m.yankees.mlb.com/news/article/2123...white-sox-talk/   Official site of the Yankees reporting that the earlier reports of Robertson being included in trade talks was false.

Judge is like Gallo.

 

Very undisciplined and a poor batting eye.

I'd like Frazier and Judge.

Those are a pair of big strong oxen to put in the corners. Grab a couple guys from the low end of the Yankees T30 on top of that and I'm all in.

 

Judge offers intriguing buy-low appeal, as does Mateo.

Judge is like Gallo.

 

Very undisciplined and a poor batting eye.

I wouldn't go as far as Gallo but yea, there's a reason Judge's stock has fallen. He's an absolute monster of man though, 6'7" 275.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 12:56 PM)
Those are a pair of big strong oxen to put in the corners. Grab a couple guys from the low end of the Yankees T30 on top of that and I'm all in.

 

Judge offers intriguing buy-low appeal, as does Mateo.

 

You're talking about him in a deal for Q. I wouldn't consider that as a "buy-low."

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 12:55 PM)
Judge is like Gallo.

 

Very undisciplined and a poor batting eye.

 

I'm not sure if that's more insulting to Gallo or Judge. Not seeing the comparison there.

MLB Network: "Quintana isn't an ace, he's a solid #2."

 

I swear Quintana could be an All-Star for the next three years, win a Cy Young and 20 games and people would still go "Well, he's good but..."

From Andrew Marchand of ESPN:

 

Yankees GM Brian Cashman has repeatedly said he is pessimistic about adding another quality starter this winter. That, of course, won't cool down the Hot Stove with the latest re-linking the Yankees to the White Sox Jose Quintana. Cashman touches base for nearly every available player; especially when it is need base. However, the White Sox want a boatload of prospects. The Yankees have been disinclined to trade any of them so, unless that changes, it seems unlikely Quintana will end up in the Bronx.
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:01 PM)
From Andrew Marchand of ESPN:

 

Well, Morosi's was at least a source, the above is just analysis and punditry.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:01 PM)
MLB Network: "Quintana isn't an ace, he's a solid #2."

 

I swear Quintana could be an All-Star for the next three years, win a Cy Young and 20 games and people would still go "Well, he's good but..."

 

If you have Ace results people will always view you as a #2 if you don't have Ace type dominating "stuff".

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:13 PM)
If you have Ace results people will always view you as a #2 if you don't have Ace type dominating "stuff".

 

Probably hurts that he was in the shadow of Chris Sale as well.

I feel like this was just a leak to get the Astros to do something.

Yanks have a position player-heavy farm, so that looks promising.

Deal starts with Torres for the Yankees.

 

Torres, Frazier, Sheffield, Andujar certainly moves the needle more than what the Astros have offered to date.

I feel like this was just a leak to get the Astros to do something.

Is Morosi one of the usual suspects for these types of things from the Sox? I feel like Nightengale is their go-to guy for those kinds of tactics.

Deal starts with Torres for the Yankees.

 

Torres, Frazier, Sheffield, Andujar certainly moves the needle more than what the Astros have offered to date.

That's probably a better package than what they got for Sale.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 06:46 AM)
How will Tatis do in A Ball for Padres?

The Morosi report seems like a White Sox leak.

Is it Wednesday yet?

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:22 PM)
That's probably a better package than what they got for Sale.

 

Yes, 4 top 100 including 2 top 50 is an insane package. Per the bmags soxtalk-value-to-actual value formula, you take out the 2nd and 4th best player in that package and you are a lot closer to a trade.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:24 PM)
The Morosi report seems like a White Sox leak.

 

Perhaps, I don't see the Yankees offering up what it would take.

 

The Chapman signing to big money is interesting though, because it suggests the front office is not keen to wait multiple years for a rebuild. Trading for Quintana would accelerate the process, but would cost many of their top prospects

Regardless, Soxtalk should send Morosi a fruit basket for the tweet. We were starting to talk about Ryan Howard for goodness sake.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:25 PM)
Yes, 4 top 100 including 2 top 50 is an insane package. Per the bmags soxtalk-value-to-actual value formula, you take out the 2nd and 4th best player in that package and you are a lot closer to a trade.

 

You start your request by asking for Torres, Frazier, Sheffield and Andujar

 

Torres + Frazier is not crazy considering three seasons of Sale got the White Sox Moncada + Kopech as a centerpiece

 

 

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 11:27 AM)
You start your request by asking for Torres, Frazier, Sheffield and Andujar

 

Torres + Frazier is not crazy considering three seasons of Sale got the White Sox Moncada + Kopech as a centerpiece

This

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:25 PM)
Yes, 4 top 100 including 2 top 50 is an insane package. Per the bmags soxtalk-value-to-actual value formula, you take out the 2nd and 4th best player in that package and you are a lot closer to a trade.

 

Sale netted #1 and #30, so 2 top 50 isn't out of the question, Q is nearly as good as Sale if hype is ignored and production analyzed. So, fine, how about Torres, Frazier, Andujar, Montgomery?

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