SoxAce Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) How/why are you guessing when it's already been posted multiple times above? He's "one of those" posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Excellent, thanks all. Sorry for just reading tweets and not opening article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Timmy just sold himself really short. But hey, when you have kids sometimes you just have to take the safest path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:36 AM) Timmy just sold himself really short. But hey, when you have kids sometimes you just have to take the safest path. These deals often seem to go to players that didn't expect to be there. Gets himself some guaranteed money for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 For the Sox, this deal makes a lot of sense. They're exposed to some risk because there are statistical indicators that Anderson would regress this year (though scouting reasons to expect improvement). But their current payroll obligations make it such that the franchise will be fine if Anderson fell off the face of the Earth. The upside is so high that we can easily stomach wasting $4M/year if he busts. If you give out enough deals like this, you only need a small portion of them to work out to break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Yikes. I am not sure what the options look like, but I would say this isn't a good deal from Anderson's perspective at first glance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (Sox Fan In Husker Land @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:14 AM) Awesome. Sale signed his extension in March of 2013. It guaranteed him 5 years and $32.5 million, buying out one year of free agency for $12 million. And the team holding options on 2 more years of what would have been free agency for $26 million total. Quintana signed his extension in March of 2014. It guaranteed him 5 years $26.5 million (due to being arbitration eligible following 2014). The team then holds options for his 1st 2 years of what would have been free agency for $22 million. Eaton signed his extension in March of 2015. It guaranteed him 5 years and $23.5 million. The deal bought out what would have been his 1st year of free agency for $8.4 million and then gave the team 2 options for $20 million. I assume Anderson's 6 year deal will have 2 club options attached to it. What deals like this amount to is a mutual bet between club ownership and the player The player likes the security a deal like that gives him and his family. $25 million allows Tim to be set for life. The Sox are betting that he succeeds and gets to buy out two seasons of free agency at a significantly reduced rate via teams options I'm sure the Sox would love to approach Rodon about an extension, although I'm not sure if Boras would allow for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 09:39 AM) These deals often seem to go to players that didn't expect to be there. Gets himself some guaranteed money for life. Nothing is certain in baseball. It makes sense for Anderson to take the money here. He is very unproven and as a shortstop could be a knee injury away from being significantly worse at his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 K not so terrible for TA "Shortstop Tim Anderson can earn total of $51.5 million if #Whitesox pick up 2 club option years of record deal http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2...99441684/" -nightingale on twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:41 AM) I'm sure the Sox would love to approach Rodon about an extension, although I'm not sure if Boras would allow for it Now that'll be a feat any of us would be impressed by if Hahn somehow by the grace of God pulled that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:41 AM) What deals like this amount to is a mutual bet between club ownership and the player The player likes the security a deal like that gives him and his family. $25 million allows Tim to be set for life. The Sox are betting that he succeeds and gets to buy out two seasons of free agency at a significantly reduced rate via teams options I'm sure the Sox would love to approach Rodon about an extension, although I'm not sure if Boras would allow for it Yeah Boras would never allow them to sign a team friendly contract giving away a year or two of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) K not so terrible for TA "Shortstop Tim Anderson can earn total of $51.5 million if #Whitesox pick up 2 club option years of record deal http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2...99441684/" -nightingale on twitter Not a bad price on those options. All things considered, this is an excellent deal for us and sets us up nicely for a strong competitive window from 2020 to 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Wow, could be a steal, could be a mistake. We have no idea. If he is as good as we think he is, it will be an amazing deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:05 AM) One more thing to note here... Look who got the scoop for this story. How many stories did he have about who was interested in White Sox players this winter? just sayin. Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale 2m2 minutes ago Chicago #WhiteSox sign shortstop Tim Anderson to record six-year, $25 million contract http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2...nsion/99441684/ Its been a while so i forgot. He was one that put a lot out there right? Didnt he have the three team deal scoop until it fell apart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I like it. Even if Anderson doesn't hit, his speed and defense alone should make him worth the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakman23 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1896586...icago-white-sox espn article about it. I like the signing. Edited March 21, 2017 by Gakman23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:50 AM) Wow, could be a steal, could be a mistake. We have no idea. If he is as good as we think he is, it will be an amazing deal. I mean it's 25 million over 6 years, I don't see how this can be a mistake at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:50 AM) Wow, could be a steal, could be a mistake. We have no idea. If he is as good as we think he is, it will be an amazing deal. Even if he's like a 1 WAR player it's worth it honestly. That's peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) K not so terrible for TA "Shortstop Tim Anderson can earn total of $51.5 million if #Whitesox pick up 2 club option years of record deal http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2...99441684/" -nightingale on twitter His last two years are worth $26.5m tops? Holy s*** this is awesome. Dude could be worth that for one year by the end of this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 It depends on how he does. It's still $25 million, same as what they will pay James Shields, and supposedly that was devastating. If he's good it's great. If he's hitting .240 with a .250 OBP, it won't be good. I like his chances, but there is always the chance he could regress especially if he doesn't become a bit more selective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) I mean it's 25 million over 6 years, I don't see how this can be a mistake at all. $4 million a year is nothing in this day and age. Dioner f***ing Navarro made $4 million last year. Brett Lawrie made $4 million last year. Austin Jackson made $5 million last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 09:11 AM) It depends on how he does. It's still $25 million, same as what they will pay James Shields, and supposedly that was devastating. If he's good it's great. If he's hitting .240 with a .250 OBP, it won't be good. I like his chances, but there is always the chance he could regress especially if he doesn't become a bit more selective. It's not really comparable to James Shields. 2.5 years isn't the same as 6. Honestly, if he plays great d at short, it still may not even be bad. Edited March 21, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:36 AM) Timmy just sold himself really short. But hey, when you have kids sometimes you just have to take the safest path. The players union was furious when Jon Singleton "sold himself short" and signed a team-friendly deal with HOU. He is stuck struggling in the minors but is $10 million richer. For all of these team-friendly contracts, there are always two sides. Can't complain about the deal from the White Sox end. Even if he ends up being Beckham v2.0, you still would have paid him a good amount of this money anyway to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 It might have cost a little bit more, but I personally would have waited until June to try to lock him with this. See where he's at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 09:16 AM) It might have cost a little bit more, but I personally would have waited until June to try to lock him with this. See where he's at. It probably still would have been about the same but I kind of agree. Maybe premature but it's not a lot of money either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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