So Jackson is on the Nats and Holmberg on the Sox

Bryce Harper may kill someone

 

Saw that video of him looking very frustrated after the bullpen blew another game.

Nah, it's no big deal...they have that big divisional lead!

Nah, it's no big deal...they have that big divisional lead!

 

Technically you're correct until they don't have that big lead. I get you're being sarcastic but still correct.

Edited June 16, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

Technically you're correct until they don't have that big lead. I get you're being sarcastic but still correct.

 

Eh, any move they make is going to be for October. They could probably win the division with you and I closing. But in the playoffs they will need guys like Robertson.

Having watched Robertson for 2 1/2 years...still not even 100% convinced how certain I would be about him in the playoffs. Definitely not in any tie game. With Miller, you know you're in trouble no matter what the game situation. Would depend on a perfectly balanced workload being possible for him.

Having watched Robertson for 2 1/2 years...still not even 100% convinced how certain I would be about him in the playoffs.

 

You and me both. If I'm hoping to win a World Series, he's not my closer. Maybe a set up man.

You and me both. If I'm hoping to win a World Series, he's not my closer. Maybe a set up man.

 

Eh, he's not the dominant guy he was in his prime with the Yankees but he's still one of the top 10 closers in baseball. His xFIP is 3.17 and he's striking out as many guys as he ever has despite having some control and command issues. Perhaps from not being used often enough.

 

You can easily win a world series with Robertson as your closer. He's tied with Houston's Ken Kiles in xFIP and fWAR and the Astros probably feel good enough about their closer to not worry. Among pitchers tossing over 20 innings Robertson is 40th in xFIP.

 

Again, he was really dominant in New York, arguably the best closer in the game. Now that he's merely "very good" isn't really a problem.

Yeah, you CAN win with a lot of things. 15 blown saves since he's been here. I have PTSD from him.

Yeah, you CAN win with a lot of things. 15 blown saves since he's been here. I have PTSD from him.

 

Roberson is likely the best available proven closer on the market right now. Hand is solid, but he won't come cheap either.

 

The Nationals need two impact bullpen and and the White Sox could certainly provide that.

Watson and Melancon aren't that exciting. Herrera is in Q territory, they have to hold onto him.

 

So available options aren't exactly enticing.

Watson and Melancon aren't that exciting. Herrera is in Q territory, they have to hold onto him.

 

So available options aren't exactly enticing.

 

Herrera is a pending FA though, right?

Herrera is a pending FA though, right?

2018. He's Arb4 next year, so he won't be cheap, and he's also having kind of a crappy season.

Eh, any move they make is going to be for October. They could probably win the division with you and I closing. But in the playoffs they will need guys like Robertson.

 

Well I know that by my point was that they haven't quite hit the urgency to make the move for an arm due to their lead.

David Robertson, in save situations, has given up four hits this year.

 

41 AB, 4 BB, 4 hits.

Well I know that by my point was that they haven't quite hit the urgency to make the move for an arm due to their lead.

 

The division sucking is one thing, but not adding substantial relief help would be a major problem for the nats me

 

That pen of not playoff worthy.

David Robertson, in save situations, has given up four hits this year.

 

41 AB, 4 BB, 4 hits.

 

He definitely seems like someone that needs the pressure to succeed.

Wade Davis is the same way...much better with 1 run lead than 2-4.

 

Yankees' pen has gotten roughed up two nights in a row in Oakland. Judge, triple and 23rd homer. Ho hum.

Edited June 17, 20178 yr by caulfield12

This whole situation is such a perfect fit and makes so much sense, it will probably never happen.

This whole situation is such a perfect fit and makes so much sense, it will probably never happen.

The trade is such an obvious fit for both teams it annoys me that it hasn't happened already.

The division sucking is one thing, but not adding substantial relief help would be a major problem for the nats me

 

That pen of not playoff worthy.

 

Again...I know...

 

Again...I know...

Well you continue to post the same thing, despite the fact that the team and the manager are clearly frustrated.

 

We all f***ing know they don't have to do anything. Guess what? There is no rule that says you have to try to win in professional sports, ever.

 

The point is that even watching from the outside, you can see the facade is starting to show signs of stress due to their bullpen blowing nearly every. single. game.

 

But yes, we all know, they do not have to do anything.

David Robertson, in save situations, has given up four hits this year.

 

41 AB, 4 BB, 4 hits.

 

IIRC, 3 of the hits were in one outing (Tigers)

Well you continue to post the same thing, despite the fact that the team and the manager are clearly frustrated.

 

We all f***ing know they don't have to do anything. Guess what? There is no rule that says you have to try to win in professional sports, ever.

 

The point is that even watching from the outside, you can see the facade is starting to show signs of stress due to their bullpen blowing nearly every. single. game.

 

But yes, we all know, they do not have to do anything.

 

I never said they didn't have to make a move to win post season. Go back and look. That was never the point I was trying to make. They don't have to do anything...yet. They can wait for more teams to fall out of contention and more options to be available. 10 game lead in standings...they'll wait a bit.

Edited June 17, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

Another bullpen implosion