https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-white-sox-manny-machado-netflix-20190114-story.html

Rosenthal (media critic at trib) noting the idea of signing manny in prep for network "launch".

One of the reasons I'm so determined to see sox succeed is I do think this was a major part of their rebuild.

I believe that Hahn sold Reinsdorf on the rebuild by saying the sox would use their assets to get a glut of young talent, allowing them to get one of the whales of 2018 (when it looked better than it did now), and would more quickly be able to build a winner than trying to improve at the margins, largely stuck with a poor farm and exhausted payroll.

The gains of the youth took a hit through injury and developmental sluggishness last year, the gains from fa can't take a similar hit. 

so much for D-Day

Just now, whitesoxwinner said:

so much for D-Day

Yeah I give up. 

 

We wont hear anything for another 2-3 weeks. I am at an all time low 

wanted to get MLBTRs perspective on this with their live chat...Got this answer....

1 minute ago, EloyJenkins said:

wanted to get MLBTRs perspective on this with their live chat...Got this answer....

I see zero chance Machado comes close to 325. 

I'm still very confident that this gets done before SoxFest. We just need a little more patience. We are almost to the end. Just keep in mind that almost all of the news and insider info since new years has been positive about the Sox getting Machado. I'm still confident.

Just now, mqr said:

I see zero chance Machado comes close to 325. 

Yea, if Machado thinks he will get 325 from the Sox we may as well go on to Plan B

22 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

If you could get Harper for $350 million or Machado for $300 million...taking Harper would be the best choice for this particular franchise at this point in time.

Could not possibly disagree more. 

1 minute ago, Saufley said:

Yea, if Machado thinks he will get 325 from the Sox we may as well go on to Plan B

Is it really that far off if Passan is correct and they’re at 8 years with a willingness to go to ten?

5 minutes ago, mqr said:

I see zero chance Machado comes close to 325. 

At this point, again, someone can come out of nowhere, I'm not sure who is going to give him that.  I guess the only possibility is Nats cave and give Harper what he wants and Phillies give Manny 325.

9 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said:

so much for D-Day

It's only 2:32 PM right now. Lots of time left for them to announce it today. #PositiveThoughts

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2 minutes ago, SoxFan562004 said:

At this point, again, someone can come out of nowhere, I'm not sure who is going to give him that.  I guess the only possibility is Nats cave and give Harper what he wants and Phillies give Manny 325.

If the Nat's get harper then all bets are off wiith Machado. I just really don't think the he's going to the Nats

I think Manny is going to hold out for a $300 million+. Some team will eventually give it to him. Manny has a decent leverage too because even if he holds out into print training, he knows he’ll still get a big contract, so why not hold out for what you want?

I still don’t think that Philly gets him, because they would have to give two players well over $600 million. 

But a team will eventually bite on $300 million. Is that a 9, 10, 11, or 12 years? I don’t know. But Manny is too good of a player, and eventually some team will say, you know what, let’s go for it! And they’ll make the splash. I just hope the White Sox are the ones to do it.

14 minutes ago, bmags said:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-white-sox-manny-machado-netflix-20190114-story.html

Rosenthal (media critic at trib) noting the idea of signing manny in prep for network "launch".

One of the reasons I'm so determined to see sox succeed is I do think this was a major part of their rebuild.

I believe that Hahn sold Reinsdorf on the rebuild by saying the sox would use their assets to get a glut of young talent, allowing them to get one of the whales of 2018 (when it looked better than it did now), and would more quickly be able to build a winner than trying to improve at the margins, largely stuck with a poor farm and exhausted payroll.

The gains of the youth took a hit through injury and developmental sluggishness last year, the gains from fa can't take a similar hit. 

Great. But they need to close the deal then. This is also why I don't think money is the problem, it's the opt outs that will kill the deal.

8 minutes ago, Saufley said:

Yea, if Machado thinks he will get 325 from the Sox we may as well go on to Plan B

Why? 10 years and 325 million is less than 33 million per year. I don't think this is an outrageous amount to pay a guy who had nearly 6 wins last year. 

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Is it really that far off if Passan is correct and they’re at 8 years with a willingness to go to ten?

If the Sox truly are at 8/$250M, going to 10/$325M is only $75M more and an average of $32.5M, which is only sightly more than the average they've purportedly offered.

Funny how we use the word "only" when talking about $75M.

We go through this cycle with every star player, and then they end up signing for more than anyone thought possible.  Being fully realistic here, I see no scenario in which the Sox sign Manny Machado in the lo 200 millions for a total contract value.

98 Members browsing right now. Crazy.

 

10 minutes ago, mqr said:

I see zero chance Machado comes close to 325. 

Yeah that's nuts. If the reported $250m deal is accurate, he's nowhere near $325m right now. Right now it's only the Sox and Phillies, so it's super hard to imagine bidding getting so hot that he gets another $75 mil at this point. He might get another 1-2 years or higher AAV, but he's not raising the contract that much at this point in the game.

Just now, Orlando said:

98 Members browsing right now. Crazy.

 

With a whole lot of absolutely nothing going on

16 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said:

so much for D-Day

You could say it was Machado about nothing.

Just now, mqr said:

With a whole lot of absolutely nothing going on

The Sox really need to get this done. They have a fan base completely invested in this entire process. 

If you think about it, this will certainly be over by the beginning of March. By the time I'm in Ireland for spring break, we'll know who both Harper and Machado are going to play for this year. So...45 days to go, TOPS!

It will be interesting to see when the opt outs are for each player.  With a labor negotiation on the horizon and a possible work stoppage, the opt outs will be important.  I think it will be a tell on the agents part on what they believe the future holds.

Speaking of labor negotiations, a lot of things will be discussed, but how about a deadline for free agency..........

1 minute ago, Soxman72 said:

Speaking of labor negotiations, a lot of things will be discussed, but how about a deadline for free agency..........

Pretty sure that is completely infeasible. If you don't meet the deadline who gets punished? Player? Team? Both? Good luck on getting either party to sign up for that.