Robert

Yo

Abreu

Grandal

Eloy

Mazara

TA

DH?

Madrigal

 

Even penciling him into the line up doesn't do much for me...

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

They probably have it their demented minds they’ll make a run at Mookie next year.  I mean, they refused to even take a token run at Cole & Strasburg, but I’m sure they’ll pump themselves up for a half-assed Betts pursuit.  Let’s just hope that a bunch of the 2021 free agents don’t sign extensions beforehand or we will really be in a fucking predicament.

This wait until next year to spend big stuff is a freaking joke.  The front office must be hoping they can delay the supposed spending until fans simply forget about it.

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by Moan4Yoan

3 minutes ago, Quin said:

To keep positive thoughts in mind:

Projected 2020 lineup (ignore the order, I'm not putting too much thought into it)

SS - Tim Anderson
CF - Luis Robert
3B - Yoan Moncada
1B - Jose Abreu
LF - Eloy Jimenez
C  - Yasmani Grandal
DH - James McCann
RF - Nomar Mazara
2B - Nick Madrigal

I would still only put the o/u at 5.5 of that lineup having over a 100 wRC+

The Sox have a major league RF'r now. Could have done better with the stars aligned and all, but... its not Ryan Cordell.

7 minutes ago, teorey23 said:

The issue is that we as Sox fans are forced to believe this is the big move... 
A very MEH player

We were told the Machado money would be spent, it still has not been spent and now we’re gonna be spoon fed by the White Sox Talk guys Mookie to the White Sox in 2020 

Jerry isn’t gonna spend the money it takes to put us over the top.

I have not read one single fan say or even accept this as a "big move." 

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by HOFHurt35

Heyman said we were clearing money for Rendon with this deal.

Lol.

 

3 minutes ago, Chisox378 said:

Steele Walker is a better hitter right now than Mazara. We should have kept Walker and put him in RF. 

For someone who likes basic stats, you should be salivating at the fact that Mazara's lowest batting average in the big leagues is .253 (Grandal's highest in his career is .247 not counting his sample sized '12 season).

Just now, SoxAce said:

For someone who likes basic stats, you should be salivating at the fact that Mazara's lowest batting average in the big leagues is .253 (Grandal's highest in his career is .247 not counting his sample sized '12 season).

Difference is Grandal can draw walks as he had 109 last season as a catcher.

I'm sure someone on the Rangers scout team feels like I do otherwise they wouldn't have traded for Walker straight up.

1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Heyman said we were clearing money for Rendon with this deal.

Lol.

 

Encarnacion would be perfect now for DH. 

6 minutes ago, Quin said:

To keep positive thoughts in mind:

Projected 2020 lineup (ignore the order, I'm not putting too much thought into it)

SS - Tim Anderson
CF - Luis Robert
3B - Yoan Moncada
1B - Jose Abreu
LF - Eloy Jimenez
C  - Yasmani Grandal
DH - James McCann
RF - Nomar Mazara
2B - Nick Madrigal

vs.

2019 (same order, cause whatever)

SS - Tim Anderson
CF - Engel/Cordell/Tilson
3B - Yoan Moncada
1B - Jose Abreu
LF - Eloy Jimenez
C - James McCann
DH - Yonder Alonso
RF - Ryan Cordell/Daniel Palka
2B - Yolmer Sanchez

Just had a question,  what if Madrigal isn't ready out of spring training and is delayed 2 or 3 months -- who's our second baseman? Leury? Mendick? FA?

 

3 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Heyman said we were clearing money for Rendon with this deal.

Lol.

 

He meant that the Rangers cleared money for Rendon.  

What if Mazara is looked at as a DH?

Still bring in a Joc peterson type to play RF. And sign a bumgartner 

 

Good to see Bagdad Bob found a job after the war. 

1 minute ago, Chisox378 said:

Difference is Grandal can draw walks as he had 109 last season as a catcher.

Yes I know that. I just find it hilarious coming from you who usually sites batting average alot when evaluating players (as well as Ks and BBs)

We have a DH with Collins, McCann and Grandal.

The takes on both sides of this trade are hilarious

”Awful terrible despicable trade. Jd is drunk and has lost his mind. Total joke of an organization” - Rangers fan on twitter. 

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by mqr

12 minutes ago, Chisox378 said:

Steele Walker is a better hitter right now than Mazara. We should have kept Walker and put him in RF. 

You are literally nuts dude. Walker would be lucky to hit 5 homers in the majors right now 

3 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said:

He meant that the Rangers cleared money for Rendon.  

Yeah, Hahn is helping his good friend Jon Daniels try to get Rendon so they can compete.

3 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Yes I know that. I just find it hilarious coming from you who usually sites batting average alot when evaluating players (as well as Ks and BBs)

You know me well young Skywalker! Yes I look at k to walk coupled with batting average and doubles and triples. Love Madrigal!!!  Mazara batting average not too impressive. Most importantly smart unselfish hitters, not HR or nothing guys.

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by Chisox378

19 minutes ago, fathom said:

Funny thing is he’s probably our 2nd best hitter against RHP behind Yoan

I’m not sure about that.  Here’s our roster’s wRC+ against RHP last year:

• Moncada = 148
• Anderson = 132
• Jimenez = 120
• Grandal = 114
• Mazara = 110
• Collins = 99
• Abreu = 99

I would expect Collins & Abreu to both be better against RHP.  Honestly, wouldn’t be surprised if Mazara was the low man on the totem pole next year out of these seven.

Nomar Mazara was the worst qualified OF against LHP last year with a 55 wRC+. You know who would have been a perfect platoon for him since that's really all he can be trusted for?......Hunter Renfroe, who I wanted before he got traded to the Rays. 139 wRC+ career vs. LHP. Sigh...

1 minute ago, MyNamesRod said:

You are literally nuts dude. Walker would be lucky to hit 5 homers in the majors right now 

To be fair, he'd probably hit more than Billy Hamilton.

Really not sure what the peoblem is. Spray chart shows potential in another park.