Just now, Lillian said:

I have not given any credence to the speculation that Bloom asked for either Vaughn, or Madrigal. I have no idea. My statement about the Red Sox having unreasonable demands was based solely on Bloom's public pronouncements, regarding the kind of deal he is suggesting for Price.

I gotcha. I think he knows if he wants to keep Betts for whatever reason, he needs to dump Price and JBJ. I'm sure he's just waiting out the market. 

4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I think they'll have two new pitchers, a 2B and probably another DH option, yes. Not sure on who those players are though. 

If the Sox add a 2B and a DH option, do you think Collins just starts in AAA?  Not sure how he fits into the mix at all if we add a DH option. 

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

If the Sox add a 2B and a DH option, do you think Collins just starts in AAA?  Not sure how he fits into the mix at all if we add a DH option. 

If they go into the season without any additions, I think Collins is the DH vs RHP. No idea what happens if they add someone. 

2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

If the Sox add a 2B and a DH option, do you think Collins just starts in AAA?  Not sure how he fits into the mix at all if we add a DH option. 

If they add someone I think Collins is traded.  I could see him being the main piece in a Price/Beni deal.

Just now, cjgalloway said:

If they add someone I think Collins is traded.  I could see him being the main piece in a Price/Beni deal.

I guess I could too, but I don't really see a Price/Beni deal as remotely realistic.  

The reason that I chose Keuchel and Nova as my personal choices, to target for the rotation, is that they are both a change of pace from our fireballing starters. Kopech, Cease and Lopez all throw hard. Moreover, maybe Nova could teach his cutter and Keuchel could help some of our guys to induce more ground balls. Of course, I would have much preferred Cole and Strasburg, but that was never going to happen, not even half of that fantasy. They're also both pretty durable.

Edited December 18, 20196 yr by Lillian

7 minutes ago, Lillian said:

The reason that I chose Keuchel and Nova as my personal choices, to target for the rotation, is that they are both a change of pace from our fireballing starters. Kopech, Cease and Lopez all throw hard. Moreover, maybe Nova could teach his cutter and Keuchel could help some of our guys to induce more ground balls. Of course, I would have much preferred Cole and Strasburg, but that was never going to happen, not even half of that fantasy. They're also both pretty durable.

Very reasonable choices IMHO.  Both ground ball pitchers which is a good thing on the South Side.

3 hours ago, cjgalloway said:

If they add someone I think Collins is traded.  I could see him being the main piece in a Price/Beni deal.

I'd honestly deal Collins in that deal, I think that's feasible.  Wouldn't be upset at all.

2 hours ago, Soxnfins said:

I'd honestly deal Collins in that deal, I think that's feasible.  Wouldn't be upset at all.

Money would be the main piece IMO.

11 hours ago, Steve9347 said:

Meh. He started hot but finished with an OPS+ of 96. 

He got hurt in July and played but ended up on IL in August. I doubt they will want Madrigal or Vaughn looking at their top prospects.  Rumors  of the Dodger trade says they will most likely  want an OF and SP in return. My guess is they will want Cease and Hahn says no.  Not sure if Lopez is an option. 

4 hours ago, Lillian said:

The reason that I chose Keuchel and Nova as my personal choices, to target for the rotation, is that they are both a change of pace from our fireballing starters. Kopech, Cease and Lopez all throw hard. Moreover, maybe Nova could teach his cutter and Keuchel could help some of our guys to induce more ground balls. Of course, I would have much preferred Cole and Strasburg, but that was never going to happen, not even half of that fantasy. They're also both pretty durable.

I would assume the preference would be to add a LH since we need at least one especially w the uncertainty of Rodon. So another plus w Keuchel or  Ryu or even Price.  

so uhh no one is talking about this, but why can't we just trade madrigal for snell, vaugh for sale, and sign keuchel?

rotation Snell, Sale, Gio, Kopech, Keuchel and we win the next 2 or 4 world series

13 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

so uhh no one is talking about this, but why can't we just trade madrigal for snell, vaugh for sale, and sign keuchel?

rotation Snell, Sale, Gio, Kopech, Keuchel and we win the next 2 or 4 world series

Because the Rays would want a true "high impact" player like Robert in order to trade away four years of Snell.

Something like Robert and Cease would be the minimum request, or Robert and Vaughn.

If they trade him away for anything less, they have no chance to compete year-in and year-out with the Yankees, Red Sox and eventually the Blue Jays again.

Would there be a price that you would want Heyward/Darvish from the Cubs if the we got them for next to nothing?

Would rather help the Cubs over the Red Sox if we are being serious about winning a World Series in the next 5 years.

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Because the Rays would want a true "high impact" player like Robert in order to trade away four years of Snell.

Something like Robert and Cease would be the minimum request, or Robert and Vaughn.

 If they trade him away for anything less, they have no chance to compete year-in and year-out with the Yankees, Red Sox and eventually the Blue Jays again.

I'm being sarcastic, sorry!

Just so tired of the White sox and dumpster diving. 

I'm losing my mind. 

33 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

so uhh no one is talking about this, but why can't we just trade madrigal for snell, vaugh for sale, and sign keuchel?

rotation Snell, Sale, Gio, Kopech, Keuchel and we win the next 2 or 4 world series

I’m sure the fake Twitter feed in your MLB The Show franchise went nuts. 

Darvish has a no trade clause and has stated he wouldn’t wave it

Is today the day Hahn pulls the trigger on something??

1 hour ago, HakunaMachado said:

Is today the day Hahn pulls the trigger on something??

Yes, but it's only cuz he's going to the gun range.

1 hour ago, HakunaMachado said:

Is today the day Hahn pulls the trigger on something??

It's the day of our Christmas Party.... so maybe he'll somehow show up and execute on some bourbon.

Would Collins, Thompson, and Rutherford be enough for Boston to include cash?

5 minutes ago, knightni said:

Would anything be enough for Boston to include cash?

Yes

12 minutes ago, knightni said:

Would Collins, Thompson, and Rutherford be enough for Boston to include cash?

David Price by himself is worth about -$50M. 

5 hours ago, knightni said:

Would Collins, Thompson, and Rutherford be enough for Boston to include cash?

Boston should expect to send roughly 42 million in cash...and expect zero by way of players in return.

You really want to commit to paying Price $18 million a season for the next three years?

That's a HUGE gamble.  It would be one thing if it was only one year and realistically achievable incentives to lock in the deal for 2021, but to have that contract covering 2 out of 3 most important contention years seems as high-risk as it comes.