3 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

 

If it is the plan, then the other started must be a trade. Ryu is good but always hurt and Keuchel isn't that much better than Gio.

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by daggins

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

For about the 1,000th time, Kopech is starting in AAA.  

For the 1,001th time, HAVE THE WHITE SOX OFFICIALY SAID THIS? 

So whats the money?  I want to compare it to the Wade Miley deal.

I maintain my stance, this is a fine signing for the back-end rotation. It's a warm body, probably $5-8mm and he provides decent production. I'll take it. Now go sign Alex Wood or Ryu and please for the love of God bring in something useful in RF (Mazara at DH). 

8 minutes ago, DurhamStance said:

was this speculated somewhere? 

yea, by a bullshit artist on twitter

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

For the 1,001th time, HAVE THE WHITE SOX OFFICIALY SAID THIS? 

Officially? No they cannot do that as that would provide strong support for a grievance filed later. They can suggest that he will be heading to AAA but they also have to say something about it depending on spring training or his innings or whatever. They cannot issue that firm statement until spring training. 

The prophecy has been fulfilled.

2 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

For the 1,001th time, HAVE THE WHITE SOX OFFICIALY SAID THIS? 

Hahn has said it without explicitly saying it. It's pretty obvious through context. Don't expect Kopech up until after the draft in June, or Memorial Day Weekend at the earliest. He needs to be down for 45 days to get the year back, and they're going to stretch it out a bit longer to avoid a possible grievance. 

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by Jack Parkman

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

LOL why would the White Sox trade for Lindor? 

Converting Tim Anderson to P. He’ll be our #2 starter.

Not a bad 4th/5th starter.  Third time is the charm for Gio.  Hopefully Sox can still get 1 more SP in here and some bullpen help then I call this a successful offseason. 

1 minute ago, HOFHurt35 said:

For the 1,001th time, HAVE THE WHITE SOX OFFICIALY SAID THIS? 

They're never going to officially say this until they option him to the minors in March.  So no.  But the people in charge have alluded to it many times.  So yah, Kopech is going to be in AAA.  Stop penciling him into your OD rotations.  

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Hahn has said it without explicitly saying it. It's pretty obvious through context. Don't expect Kopech up until after the draft. 

I very much doubt he will be back that late. Probably in May.

5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

LOL why would the White Sox trade for Lindor? 

Exactly. I don’t think it makes any sense, but anonymous twitter sources cannot be wrong!!!

Ken Rosenthal

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Free-agent right-hander Julio Teheran in agreement with #Angels on one-year, $9M contract, source tells The Athletic. Pending physical. First with agreement:

@JeffPassan

 

Holy shit, thank god we didn't sign that deadbeat to a 9m Deal. 

In all seriousness, I’m happy if the deal doesn’t exceed 1/$7M. We paid Nova $9M to eat innings last year, and Gio is more than just a Nova replacement.

3 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

Converting Tim Anderson to P. He’ll be our #2 starter.

isn't he going to be a catcher?  LOL for whoever used to post that

5 minutes ago, daggins said:

I very much doubt he will be back that late. Probably in May.

Memorial Day at the earliest. He needs to be down 45 days to get the year back. I'd expect him down a week or two past that. Sometime between Memorial Day weekend and the Draft is my guess. 

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by Jack Parkman

5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

So whats the money?  I want to compare it to the Wade Miley deal.

If he got less than 9 million, after Tehearan bum ass got 9 million, it's a hell of a steal. I would guess he got like 4-5 million too.

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Ken Rosenthal

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Free-agent right-hander Julio Teheran in agreement with #Angels on one-year, $9M contract, source tells The Athletic. Pending physical. First with agreement:

@JeffPassan

 

Holy shit, thank god we didn't sign that deadbeat to a 9m Deal. 

Seems like all these secondary options are getting money in this range.

4 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

Converting Tim Anderson to P. He’ll be our #2 starter.

 

Just now, Moan4Yoan said:

Seems like all these secondary options are getting money in this range.

Yeah, 9 million is crazy. Makes Nova 9 million look fine.

If Gio got under that (which I'd guess he did) the sox did real well.

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

They're never going to officially say this until they option him to the minors in March.  So no.  But the people in charge have alluded to it many times.  So yah, Kopech is going to be in AAA.  Stop penciling him into your OD rotations.  

OK even then,  why would you hang out a $20 million annual contract to Ryu/Keuchel/Price if you know at some point Kopech will be a part of this rotation? 

Or are folks still rooting for Lopez to fail? 

I think the Sox will get a disposable 2nd veteran here shortly to go with Gio.  

 

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

OK even then,  why would you hang out a $20 million annual contract to Ryu/Keuchel/Price if you know at some point Kopech will be a part of this rotation? 

Or are folks still rooting for Lopez to fail? 

I think the Sox will get a disposable 2nd veteran here shortly to go with Gio.  

 

No one is rooting for Lopez to fail, but we can't count on all of our pitchers being good next season. And if they are all good, that is a great problem to have. 

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

OK even then,  why would you hang out a $20 million annual contract to Ryu/Keuchel/Price if you know at some point Kopech will be a part of this rotation? 

Or are folks still rooting for Lopez to fail? 

I think the Sox will get a disposable 2nd veteran here shortly to go with Gio.  

 

Because Kopech is Gio's replacement?  It's a 1 year deal.

2 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

OK even then,  why would you hang out a $20 million annual contract to Ryu/Keuchel/Price if you know at some point Kopech will be a part of this rotation? 

Or are folks still rooting for Lopez to fail? 

I think the Sox will get a disposable 2nd veteran here shortly to go with Gio.  

Having too many SP is a good problem to have and certainly one the Sox will be happy to address if need be.  Guys get hurt.  Guys are ineffective.  Shit happens.  

But I do think you pretty much hit the nail on the head on why the Sox aren't super keen on backing up the truck for a long term deal for sketchy long term assets like Ryu and Keuchel.