34 minutes ago, bmags said:

why?

There's no point in having him in Schaumburg, he's not going to contribute. He was active. We aren't getting an all star pitcher. I could absolutely see him as part of a package.

Maybe they want him to work with the coaches nowthat they think he is healthy and ready

41 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Maybe they want him to work with the coaches nowthat they think he is healthy and ready

This. No point in just sending him home.

1 hour ago, SouthWallace said:

 

A very famous number in Chicago sports history. Dick Butkus

 

3 hours ago, DirtySox said:

Also.

 

Fantastic fucking news!!

Wish they would let Ruiz figure it out. Too good of an arm

According to Statcast Dunning's curveball has below avg spin rates.  Damn that's too bad.  It looked pretty good to me but apparently it sucks.  Oh well. 

7 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

According to Statcast Dunning's curveball has below avg spin rates.  Damn that's too bad.  It looked pretty good to me but apparently it sucks.  Oh well. 

That’s surprising. I thought it looked good too. Definitely a small sample size for a guy coming off TJ. I’d bet it at least gets to around average once he gets for innings and brushes the rust off. I don’t recall ever seeing any reports that any of his pitches were below average.

Edited August 21, 20205 yr by CWSpalehoseCWS

30 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

According to Statcast Dunning's curveball has below avg spin rates.  Damn that's too bad.  It looked pretty good to me but apparently it sucks.  Oh well. 

But what does his carry rate look like?

31 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

That’s surprising. I thought it looked good too. Definitely a small sample size for a guy coming off TJ. I’d bet it at least gets to around average once he gets for innings and brushes the rust off. I don’t recall ever seeing any reports that any of his pitches were below average.

I mean, is spin rate the end all be all for breaking pitches? It had some great movement to the naked eye. He could also control it very well.

2 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

That’s surprising. I thought it looked good too. Definitely a small sample size for a guy coming off TJ. I’d bet it at least gets to around average once he gets for innings and brushes the rust off. I don’t recall ever seeing any reports that any of his pitches were below average.

Maybe it’s different for breaking balls and fastballs but I thought average spin rates were what you want to avoid? I thought you were supposed to prefer a high spin rate, then a low spin rate, and then average

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

But what does his carry rate look like?

let's just say if you're looking to fill up the woodbox for the stove in winter from the woodpile out back he's a 1 trip man.  This guy stacks.

https://theathletic.com/2012125/2020/08/21/law-scouting-notes-on-a-great-rookie-pitching-matchup/?source=dailyemail

Mize vs. Dunning scouting notes (KLaw)

Dunning was 91-94 mph and located it very well down and away to right-handers, and showed a plus changeup early with good tumble at 85-87 mph. He didn’t have much feeling for his breaking ball in the first inning, but it improved as he went along, and he started getting it down for chases — down and in to lefties, down and away to righties — until he started the third time through the order and left one up to Jeimer Candelario, who hit a three-run homer that ended Dunning’s day. Dunning was also really hurt by his defense; Zack Collins, a below-average receiver, was catching and had trouble with Dunning’s breaking stuff, while several fielders behind Dunning didn’t get to balls they probably should have. I thought Dunning could be a league-average starter before he got hurt, and after this — the first time I’ve seen him pitch in any form since the injury — I don’t see any reason to change that projection.

 

Why are his FB and change not the Hawk Harrelson “ideally 10-12 MPH of differential”?  Just curious.  Thought his FB velocity was supposedly closer to 93-95, touching 96...?

Edited August 21, 20205 yr by caulfield12

Dunning due to be back on Sunday the 30th.  Hope so.  If so, another pitcher has to go.