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Padres Acquire Clevinger per Multiple Reports

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3 minutes ago, SouthWallace said:

I don’t disagree with their perspective but also HAHAHAHA no. 

lol....Luis Robert is probably a top 10 to 20 player value wise, he’s worth considerably more Clevinger.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

lol....Luis Robert is probably a top 10 to 20 player value wise, he’s worth considerably more Clevinger.

Top 5, honestly. That contract is really nice

Just now, Jose Abreu said:

Top 5, honestly. That contract is really nice

You’re probably right.

7 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Power hitting OF? Then give them Mazara

Oh wait he fucking sucks

Shhhh, don't tell them that. Did he hit a 500 foot HR off of any of their pitchers last year too? Maybe we can just send them that video and convince them how good he is.

8 minutes ago, SouthWallace said:

I don’t disagree with their perspective but also HAHAHAHA no. 

Robert for Bieber.

Just now, Balta1701 said:

Robert for Bieber.

And still no

Just now, Balta1701 said:

Robert for Bieber.

No

Just now, Balta1701 said:

Robert for Bieber.

How about we keep Robert instead?

Just now, soxfan49 said:

And still no

I'm turning over it in my head and I'm thinking I might. You'd have Bieber through 2024. For an ace? 

Just now, MiddleCoastBias said:

Shhhh, don't tell them that. Did he hit a 500 foot HR off of any of their pitchers last year too? Maybe we can just send them that video and convince them how good he is.

Lots and lots of power in that bat.  Just ignore everything he’s shown this season ??.

10 minutes ago, SouthWallace said:

I don’t disagree with their perspective but also HAHAHAHA no. 

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Hahn laughs loudly before hanging  up the phone. 

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2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I'm turning over it in my head and I'm thinking I might. You'd have Bieber through 2024. For an ace? 

No, no, and no. You trade the farm or overpay in free agency for an ace before you give up Robert 

I know this is mostly in jest but there really is no way Luis Robert (say he were on the Orioles with this contract) could receive fair value in a trade. You'd have to get multiple teams involved. It would need to be like the Sale and Quintana returns combined. We're talking about 8 relatively cheap years of a 4+ win  baseline center fielder with a Trout ceiling

Rosenthal confirming this is pretty significant

10 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Robert for Bieber.

No thanks 

13 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Robert for Bieber

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Edited by SonofaRoache

Hey, Hoynsie: If the Indians were going to trade Mike Clevinger – I believe they will for the right haul – what would be a fair return? – Carl, Cocoa Beach, Fla.

Hey, Carl: The logical return would have to include offense, perhaps an established, productive outfielder. But Chris Antonetti and Mike Chernoff would have to factor in what kind of salary they’d be bringing on. In the pandemic season, I can’t see them taking on a whole lot of salary because of the financial hit all teams have taken by not having fans in the stands and playing a shortened season.

I think it would be difficult for the Indians to make a trade involving Clevinger by Monday’s deadline. He’ll have two years of control left after this season. It’s not like their main goal is to dump salary. They’d have to get a significant return to help them this season and in the future. Scouting the future right now is difficult, based on what is going on at most secondary training sites and the fact that there is no minor-league season.

If they’re going to trade Clevinger, it might be more productive to do it in the offseason.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/tribe/2020/08/what-can-the-cleveland-indians-get-for-mike-clevinger-hey-hoynsie.html

Two higher priced arbitration years of control (of course, he's missing a ton of time in 2020 already) vs. Kopech's, what, 5 years?

It's definitely an interesting, high risk/high reward move for both organizations.

Will believe it when it happens.

 

But it is ONE full season more of control, which is much more appealing than the Lynn deal, since it gets your right to the heart of the competitive window in the 2022, and maybe the White Sox are feeling more confident now with Dunning holding his own...or that Kopech is better suited as a reliever than a starter, no real way to know what the thinking is behind the scenes as he sits out 2020.

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16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I'm turning over it in my head and I'm thinking I might. You'd have Bieber through 2024. For an ace? 

Seven years of a top 5 position player is always going to be worth more than four years of a top 5 pitcher just due to injury risk.

The bullpen is going right now.. 

 

Dunning is dealing today, maybe hes about to be pulled for a trade?

2 minutes ago, Ben Waffleson said:

The bullpen is going right now.. 

 

Dunning is dealing today, maybe hes about to be pulled for a trade?

Or injured. Killing a trade.

Keeping James McCann around SOMEHOW is looking more and more attractive.

It's such an interesting argument, but you can cut what, $20 million from next year's budget by letting guys like Rodon go, along with those on expiring contracts or options like EE, Gio G, Mazara, Leury Garcia, Fry, etc.

Robert got himself out there.

Let's go Mendick!   Need to start to put this game a bit closer to out of reach instead of letting the Royals hang around....which turned out not so well yesterday.

3 minutes ago, Ben Waffleson said:

The bullpen is going right now.. 

 

Dunning is dealing today, maybe hes about to be pulled for a trade?

I believe they said he was going to be limited like his last start.

Just now, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

I believe they said he was going to be limited like his last start.

He’s only thrown 50 pitches 

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