August 30, 20205 yr They're not trading Robert F/OR Bieber...no way. Edited August 30, 20205 yr by caulfield12
August 30, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Keeping James McCann around SOMEHOW is looking more and more attractive. It's such an interesting argument, but you can cut what, $20 million from next year's budget by letting guys like Rodon go, along with those on expiring contracts or options like EE, Gio G, Mazara, Leury Garcia, Fry, etc. Robert got himself out there. Let's go Mendick! Need to start to put this game a bit closer to out of reach instead of letting the Royals hang around....which turned out not so well yesterday. $20 million? It's close to $50 million. McCann and Colome is like $15 million. Decline the options on EE, Cishek and Gio and it's another $25 million. Non-tender Rodon and Mazara for another $10 million or so. They should have plenty of $$.
August 30, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: $20 million? It's close to $50 million. McCann and Colome is like $15 million. Decline the options on EE, Cishek and Gio and it's another $25 million. Non-tender Rodon and Mazara for another $10 million or so. They should have plenty of $$. Jerry is poor tho
August 30, 20205 yr I would not trade with Cleveland. Just try to get a minor deal done with some team outside the division. Just let this wasted season play out. Covid still could play havoc with it.
August 30, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: $20 million? It's close to $50 million. McCann and Colome is like $15 million. Decline the options on EE, Cishek and Gio and it's another $25 million. Non-tender Rodon and Mazara for another $10 million or so. They should have plenty of $$. Plus Herrera’s salary will be gone as well.
August 30, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Plus Herrera’s salary will be gone as well. Yeah but everyone else slowly goes up. It really depends on whether JR really says "Cut payroll compared to this year" or not, which will depend on a whole lot of things in the offseason. If JR gives that command, then even if all of those things happen, they won't have much to spend, and if they took salary on right now they'd have nothing to spend without moving someone.
August 30, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Yeah but everyone else slowly goes up. It really depends on whether JR really says "Cut payroll compared to this year" or not, which will depend on a whole lot of things in the offseason. If JR gives that command, then even if all of those things happen, they won't have much to spend, and if they took salary on right now they'd have nothing to spend without moving someone. I’ve run the numbers and at a $140M payroll (slightly above league average), we should have $35M to work with and that’s assuming we bring back Rodon & Lopez as bullpen arms.
August 30, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, Ben Waffleson said: The bullpen is going right now.. Dunning is dealing today, maybe hes about to be pulled for a trade? He is still ramping up on pitches.
August 30, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’ve run the numbers and at a $140M payroll (slightly above league average), we should have $35M to work with and that’s assuming we bring back Rodon & Lopez as bullpen arms. So you're projecting that Jerry Reinsdorf will approve a payroll increase of $20 million next year compared to the payroll on paper this year? I mean, he could. He could also demand a $20 million payroll cut.
August 30, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, greg775 said: I would not trade with Cleveland. Just try to get a minor deal done with some team outside the division. Just let this wasted season play out. Covid still could play havoc with it. I think the OP is wasted.
August 30, 20205 yr One thing of note: Sox attendance next season should be STELLAR. combination of people finally able to go out once vaccine arrives and this team being in part of their 5-6 year run, revenue coming in is about to skyrocket starting next season. Payroll should not be an issue. Edited August 30, 20205 yr by EloyJenkins
August 30, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So you're projecting that Jerry Reinsdorf will approve a payroll increase of $20 million next year compared to the payroll on paper this year? I mean, he could. He could also demand a $20 million payroll cut. Lol...he’s not cutting payroll. He may be crying poor right now, but the reality is we don’t have the same fixed cost structure that a lot of teams do and can better survive the loss of revenue from no fan attendance. We’ll have to wait and see if he actually goes up to $140M, but I have zero concerns that he’ll actually make cuts.
August 30, 20205 yr 31 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: One thing of note: Sox attendance next season should be STELLAR. combination of people finally able to go out once vaccine arrives and this team being in part of their 5-6 year run, revenue coming in is about to skyrocket starting next season. Payroll should not be an issue. That's true. But if I were an owner I wouldn't be counting on huge crowds and lots of profit until everything gets cleared up. Covid has shut down a country six months and counting and isn't over yet. Social issues are huge and we don't know anything about safety in cities right now. There's a lot of stuff going on that has to be fixed before sports is guaranteed to continue being a big moneymaker for billionaires. Edited August 30, 20205 yr by greg775
August 30, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: ? Hahn laughs loudly before hanging up the phone. Yeah, he's been there and done th "Ain't Gonna Make that same mistake again".
August 30, 20205 yr Just now, GradMc said: Yeah, he's been there and done that "Ain't Gonna Make that same mistake again".
August 30, 20205 yr 33 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: One thing of note: Sox attendance next season should be STELLAR. combination of people finally able to go out once vaccine arrives and this team being in part of their 5-6 year run, revenue coming in is about to skyrocket starting next season. Payroll should not be an issue. The problem is we have no idea if fans will be at games next year at this point.
August 30, 20205 yr Dear lord, could you imagine a rotation of Giolito, Keuchel, Cease, Clevinger, and Dunning?
August 30, 20205 yr Author So Rosenthal latest in the Athletic, mentions Indians really do want a power hitting OFer and there isn’t a match there with sox. Mentioned how Indians have successfully brought in third team for most recent trades.
August 30, 20205 yr Author So...if this happens my hypothesis is Sox bring in Dodgers since Hahn seems to be able to work with Friedman on complex deals.
August 30, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: They're not trading Robert F/OR Bieber...no way. Robert is a 6 WAR CF making an AAV of 11m for the next 7 years. There's literally no one id trade him for, not even Trout (due to the ages and contracts of both).
August 30, 20205 yr Kopech has izzues up the yang-yang. I do that trade in a heart-beat. Clevinger 2 hours ago, hogan873 said: Dear lord, could you imagine a rotation of Giolito, Keuchel, Cease, Clevinger, and Dunning? Kopech has izzues up the yang-yang. Dombrowski knew it too. If surrendering Kopech gets it done, I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Clevinger would become at least #2 pitcher Edited August 30, 20205 yr by GradMc
August 30, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Robert is a 6 WAR CF making an AAV of 11m for the next 7 years. There's literally no one id trade him for, not even Trout (due to the ages and contracts of both). Wouldn’t even trade him for Tatis given no extension and positional need on the Sox
August 30, 20205 yr A three way trade with Texas and Cleveland with Gallo and Clevinger could make sense. CLE could be motivated to move him and they could use more offense, trading from a position of strength. Then send prospects from both sides to TEX. Just a thought
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