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Hector wrong. Again. - Cruz back with Min

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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

Not going to experiment in a must-compete year.   Just don’t see them trusting him or Collins.

If we are to believe that there is a hard spending freeze above a certain limit...I can see Collins, Yermin, and Vaughn being used to free up as much money as possible for the one glaring need...PITCHING.

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6 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

And with Heyman now chiming in and basically saying it's a bidding war between two teams, figure this is resolved today.

I'm not certain I want to win that war.

I have zero optimism that we’re adding anything of significance after Stone’s ridiculous “be thankful for what you have” tweet.  Unfortunately, Jerry is a cheap fuck and ain’t going to take any chances in the wake of COVID.

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2 minutes ago, poppysox said:

If we are to believe that there is a hard spending freeze above a certain limit...I can see Collins, Yermin, and Vaughn being used to free up as much money as possible for the one glaring need...PITCHING.

Yeah I'm at the point where I offer Tanka 1 year/$15 mill with an option and buyout. He's likely going back to Japan at this point but he seems to be holding out until the last possible minute.

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Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I have zero optimism that we’re adding anything of significance after Stone’s ridiculous “be thankful what you have” tweet.  Unfortunately, Jerry is a cheap fuck and ain’t going to take any chances in the wake of COVID.

Agreed with all of it.

3 minutes ago, poppysox said:

If we are to believe that there is a hard spending freeze above a certain limit...I can see Collins, Yermin, and Vaughn being used to free up as much money as possible for the one glaring need...PITCHING.

The problem is we aren't spending on pitching either. 

Just now, manbearpuig said:

Yeah I'm at the point where I offer Tanka 1 year/$15 mill with an option and buyout. He's likely going back to Japan at this point but he seems to be holding out until the last possible minute.

Doesn't seem to me that he wants to go back to Japan.  Just another negotiating ploy to show he has options.  I bet your 1 year/$15 mill would get it done.

Just now, manbearpuig said:

Agreed with all of it.

I think we add someone like Wainwright on a 1/$6M deal and that’s our offseason other than some NRIs.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I think we add someone like Wainwright on a 1/$6M deal and that’s our offseason other than some NRIs.

If I was a betting man...that would be the smart money bet.

?...definitely seems like agents baiting the Twins front office here.

Also, that’s the exact lineup I posted when this rumor first appeared.  In the tiny chance we get him, is that pretty much the consensus on what the lineup should look like?

 

Not what I want but I see Jerry signing Wainwright and Brad Miller to round out FA?

36 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Nah, they’ll just go with rotating DH with Profar getting 50% of the at-bats along with Nola/Caratini and rotating the other regulars through except for Tatis and Grisham.

Yeah, perhaps not.  I thought I had read about mutual interest a few weeks back but looked again and it was just an opinion that they should.   It will be interesting to see just how many NL teams will show it if NL DH happens.  Maybe not that many, given NL contender spending already high.     

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

?...definitely seems like agents baiting the Twins front office here.

Also, that’s the exact lineup I posted when this rumor first appeared.  In the tiny chance we get him, is that pretty much the consensus on what the lineup should look like?

 

WHY MUST YOU DO THIS TO ME HECTOR

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

?...definitely seems like agents baiting the Twins front office here.

Also, that’s the exact lineup I posted when this rumor first appeared.  In the tiny chance we get him, is that pretty much the consensus on what the lineup should look like?

 

Please don't do this to us. It is clear Hector is being used to get our front office to sniff around. 

If the Twins don’t land him, where else can he possibly fit? My hopes are way too high for this to happen. I doubt it does. 

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5 minutes ago, peanut33tillman said:

Not what I want but I see Jerry signing Wainwright and Brad Miller to round out FA?

Yep. This sounds about right. 

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Just now, ChetLemon77 said:

Yep. This sounds about right. 

And that’s only because he thinks he’s signing Miller to replace Wendell Carter

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

?...definitely seems like agents baiting the Twins front office here.

Also, that’s the exact lineup I posted when this rumor first appeared.  In the tiny chance we get him, is that pretty much the consensus on what the lineup should look like?

 

That looks right to me.

35 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

Steve Stone said it ain't happening, and Heyman is saying Twins are our main competitors. He is going back to Minny. 

Twins should be heavy favorites to land Cruz, and they may have to go 2 years to get it done. They have more payroll flexibility remaining right now than the Sox, I’d estimate about $25 million. 

If they were going to splurge on a DH there were names earlier in the winter I liked way more than Cruz.  I really hope this is a leverage play again.  

6 minutes ago, ChetLemon77 said:

Yep. This sounds about right. 

Those moves would fit the budget for sure 

Depending on how they perform early on I might swap "Louis" and Tim, but otherwise that looks correct. Would be a nice lineup.

20 minutes ago, peanut33tillman said:

Not what I want but I see Jerry signing Wainwright and Brad Miller to round out FA?

Yuck to Wainwright but I think Brad Miller would be good. This is actually more than I see them doing. 

DH forward plan makes sense in 2 ways...

1. Go with Vaughn and he mashes (Yermin can start season if they want to tweak service time)

2. Sign Cruz for 2 years, Trade Vaughn for Burnes/#2, and Eloy becomes DH year 3 when Coespedes is hopefully LF starter and Colas or new FA is RF. 

3 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said:

DH forward plan makes sense in 2 ways...

1. Go with Vaughn and he mashes (Yermin can start season if they want to tweak service time)

2. Sign Cruz for 2 years, Trade Vaughn for Burnes/#2, and Eloy becomes DH year 3 when Coespedes is hopefully LF starter and Colas or new FA is RF. 

I honestly prefer option 2 but I'm warming up to the possibility of option 1, but either way we still need to add an SP.

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