1 minute ago, beautox said:

But hes a hall of fame baseball person, legit!

And the HOF excuse can't even be used anymore, we're nearing a 1/5th of the season complete so it's clear to see he's not a good manager anymore.  It's not just 1 or 2 bad decisions in a vacuum.  It's constant bad lineups and bad in game management.  

And being in the HOF is for what you did in the past.  As Kylo Ren once said "Let the past die, kill it if you have to"

3 minutes ago, y2chae said:

Between the awful lineups and bad bullpen management, not sure how anyone can defend TLR at this point.

He's either mailing it in or just doesn't have it anymore because he's either too old or the game has passed him by.

Possibly because those awful lineups have produced at a rate near the top of the league, despite injuries and lots of individual underperformance and slumps.  The Sox are currently 1.5 games behind the best record in baseball.

If LaRussa sucks, every other manager must also.

15 minutes ago, fathom said:

Or he’s trying to revert the game back to the way he believes it should be played.  Meanwhile us Sox fans have to suffer with his terrible decision making.

It’s this. And that’s why Passan’s report is far from a surprise

3 minutes ago, ThirdGen said:

Possibly because those awful lineups have produced at a rate near the top of the league, despite injuries and lots of individual underperformance and slumps.  The Sox are currently 1.5 games behind the best record in baseball.

If LaRussa sucks, every other manager must also.

It's in spite of LaRussa not because.

7 minutes ago, ThirdGen said:

Possibly because those awful lineups have produced at a rate near the top of the league, despite injuries and lots of individual underperformance and slumps.  The Sox are currently 1.5 games behind the best record in baseball.

If LaRussa sucks, every other manager must also.

28 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Yeah, he said:

among a longer detail of his missteps

Tony and the White Sox are so fortunate beat writers have little to no access to the clubhouse or front office beyond team managed zoom calls.

The vast majority of media and fans has seen many of the first month of decisions as a complete joke. There’s no doubt players and FO experiencing this first hand are even more frustrated at wasting at least another year because of this fossil.

18 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

It’s this. And that’s why Passan’s report is far from a surprise

Passan clearly doesn’t like Tony and doesn’t mind being the mouthpiece for Sox employees who have an issue with him as well

10 minutes ago, fathom said:

Passan clearly doesn’t like Tony and doesn’t mind being the mouthpiece for Sox employees who have an issue with him as well

so there are Sox employees/players who don't like him? is this as of recently or are you referring to when he was hired? I know there were some rumblings around that time, but haven't heard anything since

55 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

That team had an unique style and certainly a defined system of success.

Core of young or rising talent with veterans mixed in. Lots of high contact hitters who kept the line moving.  Willingness to put team over individual numbers. Fundamentally solid.  Dominant dominant bullpens and defense up the middle, and Gordon in LF.  Then ruling over the last 2-3 innings with Dyson, Cain and Gore nearly unstoppable on the basepaths and three closers for the 7th-9th.

What defines this White Sox team but talent/potential?  What is their identity?

 

Edited May 3, 20214 yr by caulfield12

14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

That team had an unique style and certainly a defined system of success.

Core of young or rising talent with veterans mixed in. Lots of high contact hitters who kept the line moving.  Willingness to put team over individual numbers. Fundamentally solid.  Dominant dominant bullpens and defense up the middle, and Gordon in LF.  Then ruling over the last 2-3 innings with Dyson, Cain and Gore nearly unstoppable on the basepaths and three closers for the 7th-9th.

What defines this White Sox team but talent/potential?  What is their identity?

 

Ned Yost was the worst manager in baseball and he won a World Series. All I was pointing out was that the success of a manager isn't judged solely by W/L of his team. LaRussa was given a race care and is driving against some CIVICS. Winning isn't as much of an accomplishment as some seem to think - for a manager.

So far the teams identity is a collection of SP's who all can absolutely SHOVE.

I'll leave this here as well.

?????? This place about to get lit. 

1 minute ago, ShoeLessRob said:

?????? This place about to get lit. 

What’s going on

1 minute ago, fathom said:

What’s going on

just saying with the luis injury and the rumblings of TLR already losing the club house, i feel like it's the calm before the storm. 

36 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I'll leave this here as well.

It really is a shame that nobody saw this coming.

 

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https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-white-sox/report-patience-growing-thin-white-sox-clubhouse-tony-la-russa-managerical-decisions

3 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-white-sox/report-patience-growing-thin-white-sox-clubhouse-tony-la-russa-managerical-decisions

Just a regurgitation of the Passan report, but nice to see that somebody in Chicago media is willing to run it instead of gaslighting everyone a la Phil Rogers

11 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Just a regurgitation of the Passan report, but nice to see that somebody in Chicago media is willing to run it instead of gaslighting everyone a la Phil Rogers

Has any Chicago media mentioned or discussed Tony's "Ebonics" Joke aimed at a black man as disclosed in the lawsuit filed in April against his animal welfare organization? An organization so tainted both Tony's wife and daughter left not wanting to have anything to do with that mess, a mess Tony continues to defend.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/04/24/family-divisions-explosive-allegations-engulf-tony-la-russas-animal-rescue-foundation/

Edited May 3, 20214 yr by South Side Hit Men

Passan is a hack-lib who is taking a personal chance at taking down TLR.   

1 minute ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Has any Chicago media mentioned or discussed Tony's "Ebonics" Joke aimed at a black man as disclosed in the lawsuit filed in April against his animal welfare organization? An organization so tainted both Tony's wife and daughter left not wanting to have anything to do with that mess, a mess Tony continues to defend.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/04/24/family-divisions-explosive-allegations-engulf-tony-la-russas-animal-rescue-foundation/

No, and to be honest, the organization's silence surrounding some of the specifics in that article is making me disinterested in watching the team

48 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said:

?????? This place about to get lit. 

Sincerely?

1 minute ago, Big Hurtin said:

Sincerely?

this is super serial 

10 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said:

this is super serial 

Definitely.

21 minutes ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said:

Passan is a hack-lib who is taking a personal chance at taking down TLR.   

10 minutes ago, Tony said:

He definitely has a hack-lib vigilante agenda to undermine Tony and he is not just reporting what he is hearing from people in the clubhouse. ?