3 minutes ago, wegner said:

I'm not sure this team wins another series all year....they suck!!!

They got 4 against Detroit starting first week of June. Probably won't win another series before that.

12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Jajaja man, these threads are always such a dumpster fire of hot takes after losses.

❤️

57 minutes ago, tray said:

A lot of us may have overrated our team...or underrated the losses of Eloy and Robert, the loss of McCann (given the offensive numbers that Collins and Grandall have been putting up) and maybe we over-rated our bullpen.

OK LaRussa, LaRussa LaRussa, but maybe we just aren't what some of us thought we were - a top tier team .

This is almost getting the point.  It's one thing to beat up on teams who aren't in your league.  But when you get to this level of teams, the margin for error goes away, like we saw yesterday. Those are are the games where a manager can cost you.

1 hour ago, tray said:

DA:  I encourage you to look at the video of Mercedes glancing down to the third base coach for a sign, seemingly ignoring it or blowing it off, and loading up for the meaningless HR already while up 11 runs at the end of the game. He pimped it a bit and all the gold necklaces jangling around his neck  as he rounded the bases didn't take away from that perception. 

Forget what you think about LaRussa for a minute  (and it has already been discussed ad nauseum)  wouldn't it serve Mercedes better as a rookie to be a little more low key, more respectful and a bit humble? Or maybe that is another old school, unwritten rule that doesn't matter either.

 

This is just trash posting.  There are so many code words hidden in here, you have pretty much shown yourself to everyone.  If it wasn't clear before what your deal was, it is now.

23 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Lol wuht. Come on roche, this is just pure nonsense. I get game thread over reactions but Boston, Yankees and rays all have big issues as well. Astros are nice but have no pitching depth. The sox are fine. 

There's no such thing as a cupcake schedule, this isn't college sports

It sure isn't. At this stage we are not better in a playoff series than the teams I listed. If our bullpen learns how to hold leads, then things would be different. At this juncture without Eloy and Robert, we don't have the horses in a 7 game series. We can get there once our young guys figure a few things out and the bullpen gets back to being great. 

22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This is almost getting the point.  It's one thing to beat up on teams who aren't in your league.  But when you get to this level of teams, the margin for error goes away, like we saw yesterday. Those are are the games where a manager can cost you.

McCann is hitting .201 with the Mets with 1 homer,if it makes you feel better.

38 minutes ago, JoeyCoralFanClub said:

They got 4 against Detroit starting first week of June. Probably won't win another series before that.

4 game series against Baltimore next week.

long with young player mistakes,

23 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

McCann is hitting .201 with the Mets with 1 homer,if it makes you feel better.

Yep he’s about to lose his job 

Indians have sort of figured out Sano...use his aggressiveness against him and make him go fishing for offspeed stuff outside the zone.

Still hit homer #8.   Btw, Duffey in to pitch now, 3-3 tie in CLE, suspended three games and had it reduced to two.  Bieber had started for CLE.

Every hitter now in CLE lineup below .764 ops other than Ramirez and Reyes...and that’s Luplow, who is in a huge slump and only hitting .172 (but 9 homers.).  Average of all those guys around 600-625.

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1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Jajaja man, these threads are always such a dumpster fire of hot takes after losses.

Except a lot of them aren't hot, they are heavily calculated takes a lot of us figured before the season even started. There is plenty of insight and data behind these assertions. 

2 hours ago, tray said:

DA:  I encourage you to look at the video of Mercedes glancing down to the third base coach for a sign, seemingly ignoring it or blowing it off, and loading up for the meaningless HR already while up 11 runs at the end of the game. He pimped it a bit and all the gold necklaces jangling around his neck  as he rounded the bases didn't take away from that perception. 

Forget what you think about LaRussa for a minute  (and it has already been discussed ad nauseum)  wouldn't it serve Mercedes better as a rookie to be a little more low key, more respectful and a bit humble? Or maybe that is another old school, unwritten rule that doesn't matter either.

 

Post enough and people’s true colors always come out. 

2 hours ago, tray said:

DA:  I encourage you to look at the video of Mercedes glancing down to the third base coach for a sign, seemingly ignoring it or blowing it off, and loading up for the meaningless HR already while up 11 runs at the end of the game. He pimped it a bit and all the gold necklaces jangling around his neck  as he rounded the bases didn't take away from that perception. 

Forget what you think about LaRussa for a minute  (and it has already been discussed ad nauseum)  wouldn't it serve Mercedes better as a rookie to be a little more low key, more respectful and a bit humble? Or maybe that is another old school, unwritten rule that doesn't matter either.

 

Besides that there is no video that shows this.

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There will be worse losses than this.

46 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Indians have sort of figured out Sano...use his aggressiveness against him and make him go fishing for offspeed stuff outside the zone.

Still hit homer #8.   Btw, Duffey in to pitch now, 3-3 tie in CLE, suspended three games and had it reduced to two.  Bieber had started for CLE.

Every hitter now in CLE lineup below .764 ops other than Ramirez and Reyes...and that’s Luplow, who is in a huge slump and only hitting .172 (but 9 homers.).  Average of all those guys around 600-625.

Message should be don’t let Ramirez and/or Reyes beat you.  Should have learned that lesson last season with Ramirez.

39 minutes ago, RagahRagah said:

Except a lot of them aren't hot, they are heavily calculated takes a lot of us figured before the season even started. There is plenty of insight and data behind these assertions. 

Behind what, genius boy? Please present me all your facts that show us the sox are the 5th best team in the AL right now, clown show.

51 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Indians have sort of figured out Sano...use his aggressiveness against him and make him go fishing for offspeed stuff outside the zone.

Still hit homer #8.   Btw, Duffey in to pitch now, 3-3 tie in CLE, suspended three games and had it reduced to two.  Bieber had started for CLE.

Every hitter now in CLE lineup below .764 ops other than Ramirez and Reyes...and that’s Luplow, who is in a huge slump and only hitting .172 (but 9 homers.).  Average of all those guys around 600-625.

Dude, Sano is who he is. Theres nothing to figure out. He had a good game, that happens. 

Wasn't in game thread so sorry if this was already mentioned but my take is Grandal was awful. Cease was hitting his spots through first 3 innings and getting calls. Then, he stopped getting the paint calls and Grandal continually set him up outside. The Urshella walk in the 4th inning (couple questionable balls) is where Cease lost his composure. Sure you've got to score runs but the momentum shifted and Grandal has to either frame those better or stop setting up off the plate, especially when Urshella wasn't going to bite.  I can live with him hitting a buck ten if he controls the strike zone, frames the edges and manages the game but when he doesn't he's a liability.  

3 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

Message should be don’t let Ramirez and/or Reyes beat you.  Should have learned that lesson last season with Ramirez.

Reyes pulled from game with abdominal strain.  Might be an oblique.  Good news or bad news, but it likely means we continue to stand pat/tread water and hope for Jimenez or Robert to save the offense the last 6-8 weeks.

2 hours ago, JoeyCoralFanClub said:

They got 4 against Detroit starting first week of June. Probably won't win another series before that.

Care to wager on that, champ?

1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said:

It sure isn't. At this stage we are not better in a playoff series than the teams I listed. If our bullpen learns how to hold leads, then things would be different. At this juncture without Eloy and Robert, we don't have the horses in a 7 game series. We can get there once our young guys figure a few things out and the bullpen gets back to being great. 

The Sox have the best pitching of every team you listed, this is complete nonsense. Many of you need to start watching other teams play baseball. It is too obvious most of you only watch the white sox.

2 minutes ago, Flash said:

Wasn't in game thread so sorry if this was already mentioned but my take is Grandal was awful. Cease was hitting his spots through first 3 innings and getting calls. Then, he stopped getting the paint calls and Grandal continually set him up outside. The Urshella walk in the 4th inning (couple questionable balls) is where Cease lost his composure. Sure you've got to score runs but the momentum shifted and Grandal has to either frame those better or stop setting up off the plate, especially when Urshella wasn't going to bite.  I can live with him hitting a buck ten if he controls the strike zone, frames the edges and manages the game but when he doesn't he's a liability.  

The most expensive liability in team history, to boot.

Yup, it's grandal fault Cease threw balls ????

2 hours ago, Greydawgfan1 said:

Being old doesn’t make you correct #trump

#biden

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Dude, Sano is who he is. Theres nothing to figure out. He had a good game, that happens. 

He’s a lot like Carlos Lee.  Pure streak hitter.  And that streak has finally come around recently after being buried down in the 100’s.

Regardless of one’s opinions, he has never become “the next David Ortiz.”  And his defense is so bad at third it decreases his value to just being an average or slightly below average 1B or DH.   Think Kyle Schwarber.

 

Also, fwiw, James Karinchak is the single most valuable weapon in the AL Central...man, that guy is a monster.

just blanked the Twins for two innings, who are now on the verge of their 8th extra inning loss along with 0-4 in doubleheaders.