20 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

I don’t believe he didn’t care. Reinsdorf reveled in it, enjoyed shoving the drunken criminal down the throats of fans, media, and the taxpayers he robs for his capital expenses.

He also loves keeping gang-rape coach around, as well as executives who physically assault direct reports.

Toxicity and dysfunction is the lifetime MO of Reinsdorf and a hallmark of his organizations.

Jesus, man.  Big "basement wallpapered with media clippings of JR with the eyes X'd out" energy

9 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Let it go.  

Fuck that.

Over or under on how many times Hahn uses the transitional phrase “now…” in his presser is set at 17.

What do you got?

13 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Geez, how many years ago was that?  Let it go.  

I'm sorry, what now? 

Hinch should have been banned from baseball for life for managing a team he knew was cheatiing. That is potentially worse than gambling on baseball. Gambling, if one bets to lose and throws games,  as was the (unproven) allegation in the Black Sox scandal, is worse, but what the Astros did was outrageous. Hinch and Cpra should not be in the league. The investigation into the Astros cheating should have been turned over to the FBI given that  baseball now involves legal gambling  and the implications for that cheating were far greater than they were in 1919. How about all the money law lawfully bet on games by sports betters who had no know;edge that the Astros had a decided edge from cheating? 

LaRussa did as well as any Manager would have given the circumstances - prominent players injured (Robert, Eloy, Madrigal, Grandal), and a pitching staff that under-performed based on expectations. 

That entire episode where LaRussa was upset when Mercedes ignored a take sign to show up an opponent was overblown and people who chided LaRussaa were wrong, dead wrong. Compare what Boston Manager Cora did when Rodriguez mimicked Carlos Correa last night. He . like  LaRussa, did not countenance conduct by a player who took it upon himself to show up the opposition. Mercedes was actually more blatant given his refusal to obey a take sign to embellish his own statistics.

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Gang-rape coach?

Boston

1 minute ago, tray said:

Hinch should have been banned from baseball for life for managing a team he knew was cheatiing. That is potentially worse than gambling on baseball. Gambling, if one bets to lose and throws games,  as was the (unproven) allegation in the Black Sox scandal, is worse, but what the Astros did was outrageous. Hinch and Cpra should not be in the league. The investigation into the Astros cheating should have been turned over to the FBI given that  baseball now involves legal gambling  and the implications for that cheating were far greater than they were in 1919. How about all the money law lawfully bet on games by sports betters who had no know;edge that the Astros had a decided edge from cheating? 

LaRussa did as well as any Manager would have given the circumstances - prominent players injured (Robert, Eloy, Madrigal, Grandal), and a pitching staff that under-performed based on expectations. 

That entire episode where LaRussa was upset when Mercedes ignored a take sign to show up an opponent was overblown and people who chided LaRussaa were wrong, dead wrong. Compare what Boston Manager Cora did when Rodriguez mimicked Carlos Correa last night. He . like  LaRussa, did not countenance conduct by a player who took it upon himself to show up the opposition. Mercedes was actually more blatant given his refusal to obey a take sign to embellish his own statistics.

 

 

 

Hinch and Cora should have gotten 2 year suspensions.

Every player on the 2017 Astros and 2018 Red Sox should have been fined 50 games pay, but allowed to play since some of them were on new teams.

Both WS titles should have been vacated. All statistics from both teams should have been erased.

9 minutes ago, Tony said:

I'm sorry, what now? 

This.  Not a big fan on there being an expiration date on this.

4 minutes ago, tray said:

Compare what Boston Manager Cora did when Rodriguez mimicked Carlos Correa last night. He . like  LaRussa, did not countenance conduct by a player who took it upon himself to show up the opposition.

There are unwritten rules in baseball. We will see if that move  by Rodriguez has implications in the upcoming ALCS games.

26 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Gang-rape coach?

Boston…not sure if the other reference is to KW or not.  

6 minutes ago, tray said:

Hinch should have been banned from baseball for life for managing a team he knew was cheatiing. That is potentially worse than gambling on baseball. Gambling, if one bets to lose and throws games,  as was the (unproven) allegation in the Black Sox scandal, is worse, but what the Astros did was outrageous. Hinch and Cpra should not be in the league. The investigation into the Astros cheating should have been turned over to the FBI given that  baseball now involves legal gambling  and the implications for that cheating were far greater than they were in 1919. How about all the money law lawfully bet on games by sports betters who had no know;edge that the Astros had a decided edge from cheating? 

LaRussa did as well as any Manager would have given the circumstances - prominent players injured (Robert, Eloy, Madrigal, Grandal), and a pitching staff that under-performed based on expectations. 

That entire episode where LaRussa was upset when Mercedes ignored a take sign to show up an opponent was overblown and people who chided LaRussaa were wrong, dead wrong. Compare what Boston Manager Cora did when Rodriguez mimicked Carlos Correa last night. He . like  LaRussa, did not countenance conduct by a player who took it upon himself to show up the opposition. Mercedes was actually more blatant given his refusal to obey a take sign to embellish his own statistics.

 

 

 

Pretty sure encouraging players on other teams to harm your players is against the unwritten rules of baseball is well, but I am sure there is a reason you left that part out.

Boston should not have been allowed to remain as first base coach. That is on Rich Hahn and Kenny Williams, and Reinsdorf, if he knew about the rape allegations.

At the end of the day, the GM is ultimately responsible for the day to day operation of the team. Hahn presided over years of ineffective Managing by Robin Ventura who had no business being a Manager in the first place.  Hahn also knew about LaRoach having his kid in the dugout , on the training field and did nothing about it. He then sat by idly as KW finally confronted LaRoach man to man and cleaned it up.  Hahn also shirked from confronting Chris Sale and Adam Eaton for their antics. Hahn proved himself to be a coward and a blowhard. Multiple championships? OK.

 

11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Pretty sure encouraging players on other teams to harm your players is against the unwritten rules of baseball is well, but I am sure there is a reason you left that part out.

What are you whining about now?  I left nothing out intentionally with some alleged  ulterior motive as you snidely suggest.

1 minute ago, tray said:

What are you whining about now?  I left nothing out intentionally with some alleged  ulterior motive as you snidely suggest.

You did.  You left out the part where Tony encouraged Minnesota to throw at Mercedes.

27 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Boston

https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/mets-rape-accusation-spring-training-1991.html

 

33 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Boston…not sure if the other reference is to KW or not.  

Well, since it is Two for Tuesday

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/3/9/2038527/john-paxson-bulls-vinny-del-negro

Quote

Pax reportedly choked and punched V.D.N. in the brawl in the bowels of United Center right after the game in question.

It never should have happened, and I never should have done it," Paxson said Monday. "It was a heat-of-the-moment thing, and I was very frustrated with the way we were playing.

"What also disappointed me is that [Del Negro] never owned up to making a mistake. That says more about him than it does me. I was trying to protect my player [Noah, who was coming back from injuries], I did it in the wrong way and I'm not proud of that."

Choking and punching your direct report says more about YOU, and your enabler who kept you around, than it does about Vinny Del Negro.

 

Edited October 19, 20214 yr by South Side Hit Men

2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Well, since it is Two for Tuesday

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/3/9/2038527/john-paxson-bulls-vinny-del-negro

Choking and punching your direct report says more about YOU, and your enabler who kept you around, than it does about Vinnie Del Negro.

 

For the youngsters on the board....

Asia are an English rock supergroup formed in London in 1981. The most commercially successful line-up was its original, which consisted of four members of different progressive rock bands that had enjoyed great success in the 1970s: lead vocalist and bassist John Wetton of King Crimson and U.K., guitarist Steve Howe of Yes, keyboardist Geoff Downes of Yes and The Buggles, and drummer Carl Palmer of Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Their debut album, Asia, released in 1982, remains their best selling album and went to number one in several countries. The lead single from the album, "Heat of the Moment", remains their top charting and best-known song, reaching the top 40 in over a dozen markets and peaking in the U.S. at #4 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #1 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart.

20 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said:

https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/mets-rape-accusation-spring-training-1991.html

 

Well shit. I didn’t know this, thank you for the article.

I am amazed that Boston gets a rousing ovation when he's announced.  Somehow this just hasn't gained much traction with the casual fan.

5 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

I am amazed that Boston gets a rousing ovation when he's announced.  Somehow this just hasn't gained much traction with the casual fan.

Well, people like you rather attack those who bring these issues with juvenile taunts rather than address Jerry's collection of criminals and perps. it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Hardly hearing a peep in the news related to the serial child rapist aided and abetted by Rocky Wirtz's organization. When in Big Ten (sic) country.....

10,000 Maniacs is an American alternative rock band that was founded in 1981. They have released nine studio albums, six EPs and five live albums. They achieved their most significant success between 1987 and 1993, when they released four albums that charted in the top 50 in the US: In My Tribe (1987), Blind Man's Zoo (1989), Our Time in Eden (1992) and the live album MTV Unplugged (1993). After the recording but before the release of MTV Unplugged, original lead singer and main songwriter Natalie Merchant left the band to pursue a solo career.

1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

We got the unofficial official team response from Nightengale - that DUIs were a little people crime. JR couldn’t have cared less. I’m 50/50 about whether they still would have hired him if he went on a racist rant during his arrest - as long as it wasn’t antisemitic.

Check to see if there is an update on Hahn's end of season press conference to find Balta's theories about the Sox Jewish ownership and their supposed hypocrisy. There is a lot to hate on Reinsdorf for in his time owning a baseball team but he has made plenty of contributions to society. 

1 hour ago, tray said:

Boston should not have been allowed to remain as first base coach. That is on Rich Hahn and Kenny Williams, and Reinsdorf, if he knew about the rape allegations.

At the end of the day, the GM is ultimately responsible for the day to day operation of the team. Hahn presided over years of ineffective Managing by Robin Ventura who had no business being a Manager in the first place.  Hahn also knew about LaRoach having his kid in the dugout , on the training field and did nothing about it. He then sat by idly as KW finally confronted LaRoach man to man and cleaned it up.  Hahn also shirked from confronting Chris Sale and Adam Eaton for their antics. Hahn proved himself to be a coward and a blowhard. Multiple championships? OK.

Funny how the admin's race baiting has devolved this thread into gang rape discussion.

If Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams are responsible for the day to day, why didn't Hahn get to hire his own manager? Why weren't they allowed to have formal interviews with candidates for the managerial opening? 

The Sox booted LaRoche's kid from the clubhouse in spring training. You sure seem to know a lot about internal dealings that aren't public - what is your source? Your bias is so obvious in this post that none of it can be taken taken seriously. 

To the topic at hand, has there been any update as to when this press conference will take place? Do Sox have to wait until after the WS?

5 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Well, people like you rather attack those who bring these issues with juvenile taunts rather than address Jerry's collection of criminals and perps. it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Hardly hearing a peep in the news related to the serial child rapist aided and abetted by Rocky Wirtz's organization. When in Big Ten (sic) country.....

 

Well, this is the kind of issue that probably deserves to be discussed earnestly by itself, rather than cheapened by inclusion among various other baseball personnel moves and conspiracy theories in an ongoing, over-the-top diatribe about a baseball team owner-as-supervillain ("Reinsdorf reveled in it, enjoyed shoving the drunken criminal down the throats of fans, media, and the taxpayers he robs" ?).  I can be concerned about Boston and find the tone of your posts creepy at the same time.

4 minutes ago, raBBit said:

To the topic at hand, has there been any update as to when this press conference will take place? Do Sox have to wait until after the WS?

They don't have to wait until after the World Series if they conduct the press conference before the World Series begins.

Hahn conducted his press conference on October 11 last season, and September 27, 2019. 

I reached out to James Fegan, and hopefully he can provide the date or timeframe in the interim. Hopefully they will stream it in it's entirety, and host afterward on their website. 

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Edited October 19, 20214 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside