Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Texsox said: Are MiLB players even a part of the union? No. Which is why they've always thrown minor leaguers under the bus... but for foreign amateurs in an exploitative system they were hyper protective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m convinced neither side wants a fair deal and only wants one they clearly win. It says you posted this 20 minutes ago. I assume you were convinced weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: No. Which is why they've always thrown minor leaguers under the bus... but for foreign amateurs in an exploitative system they were hyper protective. Which is really fucked, if you ask me. Everyone should have to play by the same rules. Either stand up for the minor leaguers or don't. Edited March 10, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Texsox said: Why would it hurt the competitive balance? Players could go to an organization where they have the best chance at advancing to MLB. Why would someone join the Dodgers if their path is blocked by an All Star? But if they are drafted by LA their career is blocked. You understand how free agency works right? Do the small market clubs usually get access to the best players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: No. Which is why they've always thrown minor leaguers under the bus... but for foreign amateurs in an exploitative system they were hyper protective. So why is that part of the CBA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 56 minutes ago, Texsox said: Exactly. But maybe they are hoping the other side doesn't read all the details, but I really doubt it. The Lawyers on both sides are making a fortune. They have no reason to rush the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Texsox Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You understand how free agency works right? Do the small market clubs usually get access to the best players? No I don't. Explain it to me. Are you against free agency in general or do players have to earn it by playing for ridiculously low wages for a few years while owners rake in huge profits? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Texsox said: No I don't. Explain it to me. Good counter-argument. Why don’t we also transfer all equity to the players since what’s best for them is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Why indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 This is destroying the sport and there won't be a Sosa or McGuire to save it this time. What a complete embarrassment and clusterfuck all the way around. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Pandemic, an ugly WAR getting started by Russia, a Melting Economy ..... Meanwhile Owners and the Union can't get off their pissing contest. Zero sense of reality. Fuck them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, fathom said: And now we get to hear about how players will want to be paid for 162 games. And also about service time if games start that late and no players gain a "full year of service." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Good counter-argument. Why don’t we also transfer all equity to the players since what’s best for them is all that matters. Are you against free agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Bah, do we have any evidence that either side can actually keep things quiet if they’re not all locked in a room together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I blame Ortiz. Fuck that guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Texsox said: Are you against free agency? For amateur talent? Hell yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, poppysox said: The Lawyers on both sides are making a fortune. They have no reason to rush the process. Mumbles something angry about a person who insisted the players would cave… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I can’t wait to hear next Monday about how Tuesday is the final chance for a 162-game season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: For amateur talent? Hell yes. Why? How would you like it if you didn't get to choose your first job as an adult? If you had to work for significantly less than your co-workers for 4 years before being offered a comparable wage? Edited March 10, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Why? How would you like it if you didn't get to choose your first job as an adult? Sweet, so the Bulls can sign Chet and Jabari Smith this offseason? Not having a draft for sports might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: I can’t wait to hear next Monday about how Tuesday is the final chance for a 162-game season! I think now that ship has truly sailed. They were going to force 3 DHs to get that done if a deal was signed today. There is no way they can do 10 now IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: Sweet, so the Bulls can sign Chet and Jabari Smith this offseason? Not having a draft for sports might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. There are ways to eliminate the draft that still maintain competitive integrity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Why? How would you like it if you didn't get to choose your first job as an adult? If you had to work for significantly less than your co-workers for 4 years before being offered a comparable wage? Who chooses their first job? I was out there begging someone to hire me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: For amateur talent? Hell yes. Because it will kill competitive balance. So unproven talent years away from a MLB lineup if they ever get there being able to choose which organization they want to play for is bad. Proven MLB All Star talent being able to choose which organization they play for is OK? Which really has a bigger impact on competitive balance? But I'm sure the owners appreciate your support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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