10 minutes ago, fathom said:

Numerous people on twitter who seem to have ties to JR keep saying they’re out of money, FYI

So does that mean no trade as well because technically they would be adding payroll depending on the players contract that is coming back? 

guys, im so mad,

like, im not hard to please...

we had obvious needs all offseason.. SP, RF, 2B. I'd be happy with 2 out of three. So far 0 out of 3 and we've even gone backwards.

 

1 minute ago, iWiN4PreP said:

good price jeez

Which is why he should have been on the Sox 

2 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

 

Damn.

 

And so, Rick Hahn's ongoing quest to replace The Legend of Nomar Mazara with relief pitchers, 1st basemen, and other odds and ends continues.

 

Jorge Soler, come on down!

32 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

If he was so valuable, and seemingly treated so well by SFG, one of the best front offices in the game, then why no QO?   Throwing darts against the wall would lead to better outcomes with Kimbrel and Carlos.

I don’t understand your question.  Do you think paying him $18M this year is the same as paying him $3M last year?

Just now, Whisox05 said:

 

That is dirt cheap. 

Like literally Harrisons money. 

I know he has his flaws but for real if you aren't going to make a serious offer for any of the legit LH savages on the market, you should at least have a decent contingency plan.

They've got nothing new against RHP.

Not Miller, not Joc, not Rosario, not even Tony friggin Kemp.

They are up shit creek without a paddle.

2 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

 

6 mil for 0.6 fWAR. Harrison is 5.5 for 1.5. 

8 hours ago, ron883 said:

Who's joining me with rooting for the north side this year?

That seems extreme.  Why don’t you just hang out at WSI for a few years?

I wanted nothing to do with Joc, but at $6M, I would much rather have him than Leury or Harrison. Smart organizations are making savvy moves. Then you have the White Sox.

hahn trending on twitter for the wrong reasons.

1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said:

That is dirt cheap. 

Like literally Harrisons money. 

I know he has his flaws but for real if you aren't going to make a serious offer for any of the legit LH savages on the market, you should at least have a decent contingency plan.

They've got nothing new against RHP.

Not Miller, not Joc, not Rosario, not even Tony friggin Kemp.

They are up shit creek without a paddle.

Joc isn't an upgrade on what they already have, so it would have been another shit move. 

8 minutes ago, Pal said:

I really don't know. Heard Pederson was making a decision today and feared it was the Sox. I'd rather go with the current platoon than Joc personally. 

Did the Sox even make an offer to Conforto after refusing his ask of 4 years? Or did Hahn try to get creative with a short term offer?

3 minutes ago, KBX said:

6 mil for 0.6 fWAR. Harrison is 5.5 for 1.5. 

To be intellectually honest, Pederson is projected for ~1.8 fWAR this season.

IOW, even as a platoon RFer, he's worth $6MM, and probably more. 

 

Josh Harrison is projected to be worth 0.9 fWAR. He probably won't be worth his $5.5MM contract.

Edited March 16, 20224 yr by Two-Gun Pete

Joc got .5 million more than Hahn gave Harrison. You can't make this shit up

10 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

 

I'd rather have Leury play 2B and sign Joc than Harrison. 

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Joc got .5 million more than Hahn gave Harrison. You can't make this shit up

Yep this is 100000% indefensible. 

You either sign the savage or have some kind of at least half assed backup plan. 

Playing two 1Bs in RF isn't a backup plan.

It's trash

2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Joc isn't an upgrade on what they already have, so it would have been another shit move. 

Is he not an upgrade over Leury/Engel?

SoxTalk: We need an outfielder!  Just not Joc

Also SoxTalk after Joc signs elsewhere: Why didn’t the Sox sign him!?

Just now, hogan873 said:

SoxTalk: We need an outfielder!  Just not Joc

Also SoxTalk after Joc signs elsewhere: Why didn’t the Sox sign him!?

Exactly. “You can’t make this shit up.”

1 minute ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

Is he not an upgrade over Leury/Engel?

I honestly don't think he's an upgrade of Engel. ZIPS thinks they are about equal per PA FWIW.

1 minute ago, hogan873 said:

SoxTalk: We need an outfielder!  Just not Joc

Also SoxTalk after Joc signs elsewhere: Why didn’t the Sox sign him!?

I didn't want Joc, although I'd trust him more to hit righties than Sheets. I just thought it was hilarious Hahn gave Harrison only .5 million less.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I honestly don't think he's an upgrade of Engel. ZIPS thinks they are about equal per PA FWIW.

Engel can't really hit righties and Joc can't hit lefties while Engel can. Wouldn't be the worst pair in mlb history.

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I didn't want Joc, although I'd trust him more to hit righties than Sheets. I just thought it was hilarious Hahn gave Harrison only .5 million less.

I think Sheets and Joc can put up similar numbers.  It’s the defense in RF for Sheets that’s scary.

I somehow am not too upset because this is a total White Sox move and it’s pretty comical with what they are trying to accomplish in RF and every season they cry broke but yet spend a ridiculous amount per year on stop gaps that don’t work