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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

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  • Huge news...Kimbrel spotted near the Dodgers Spring Training complex.

  • Yes. Sox would forfeit like the 65th pick, the bonus pool amount associated and $500K in international space. They should be willing to do it though.  This offseason hasn't been a good one for

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42 minutes ago, quickman said:

No thats not my logic because correa is a top player, conforto is not. At least not in my standard. Freeman top player, conforto not. I guess I am saying why hasn't somebody swooped in and grabbed this guy. Balta says because he was a qualifying offer .. ok that maybe a reason for sure but if he is so good who the hell cares. Correa is that good, but he will cost huge dollars. Freeman is that good but he will cost huge dollars. Conforto is not in that league. may be people value the lost pick more than conforto. 

Sure, but look at the money Schwarber just got for hitting...and he's not exactly peak JD Martinez or Nelson Cruz in terms of year to year consistency.

Conforto is relatively young, LH and can field a position decently/well.

That's the going rate, but it doesn't matter, because the White Sox are unlikely to meet it...if he was a FA last off-season, he'd be looking at $120-150 million, arguably.

Heck, Suzuki got a pretty impressive deal and he hasn't even played stateside.  Conforto has a considerable track record.

2 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said:

Vaughn/Sheets/Engel in RF it is

But that was last spring before he put up a bad year after having some hamstring issues.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

 

He was with them and hardly pitched, or maybe didn't even pitch at all?

More rotation insurance, to go along with David Price and Gonsolin, covering starts until Dustin May is back...

44 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I still can’t believe Boston would go to the ALCS, trade away Renfroe, lose Schwarber, get an extra $20 million under the tax, and come out of this offseason without one more bat.

As of now, the Red Sox situation in RF and 2B is worse than our Sox, which is hard to believe. A team that good starting Bradley in a strong side platoon (which is what roster resource has now) is embarrassing. They'll probably give Duran a shot out there, but he was one of the worst hitters in baseball last season.

If they were seriously in for Freeman like rumored, then Conforto as a fall back option would make a lot of sense.

11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Ask yourself what it would take to get the Rays to take on like $13 million.

They were just bidding about double that for Freeman.

23 minutes ago, Rey21 said:

You guys really wouldn’t trade Sheets and Crochet for Montas?

No. And the A's should be contracted for trading him. He's 29 and has one really good year under his belt. He probably won't duplicate last season and then he'll be 30. That's bound to be a well lopsided WAR trade over its lifetime. 

Imv also, once you start trading away those kinds of low cost long term contributors you're setting up for a garbage team in 24-25.

I dont see any path to winning the on-paper WS this year. So I'd rather just operate with the mindset of 'just keep getting to October.' 

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I would have loved to see the Sox take a flier on an injured arm like Boyd or Duffy.

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

They were just bidding about double that for Freeman.

I didn’t say they wouldn’t do it. I said to ask what it would take for them to do it.

4 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

I would have loved to see the Sox take a flier on an injured arm like Boyd or Duffy.

Or Rodon

Just now, reiks12 said:

Or Rodon

Can't afford him, gotta have a $60+ million dollar bullpen instead ?

2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I didn’t say they wouldn’t do it. I said to ask what it would take for them to do it.

Well, they were willing to for the same guy at the TDL.

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

Well, they were willing to for the same guy at the TDL.

And they would have declined his option had he been that bad for them.

2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

And they would have declined his option had he been that bad for them.

If they feel there is something there. They make the deal.  They don't think like anyone else in MLB.

2 hours ago, quickman said:

When crochet came he was suppose to be chris sale but if he was chris sale he would be in the rotation by now. I don’t know what he is except a lefthander .if he is not chris sale then get something for him, if he is chris sale then get him in the rotation.

Crochet could be as good as Chris Sale was before he got hurt, but Crochet screams TJ surgery to me. I have no problem trading him to fill another hole instead of stretching him out or keeping him in the pen.

27 minutes ago, ron883 said:

You ready to eat crow when he signs for around 4/80m?

31 minutes ago, Rey21 said:

You guys really wouldn’t trade Sheets and Crochet for Montas?

I would, Crochet isn’t going to break the bullpen for me if he gets dealt. Sheets is replaceable.

Meadows is arb eligible after this year and that's when the Rays start looking to sell guys. I actually don't think a Kimbrel + something for Meadows is completely unrealistic if the Sox were willing to eat a lot of the money.

The Rays were also strongly linked with Kimbrel before the deadline, and this is subjective, but if there was ever an organization that would look at the big picture and not overreact to 23 bad innings from a reliever, it's them.

10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

Not a bad idea because of the shortened spring training.

Don't like it for normal years though 

14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

The Sox were awesome during extras with the man on 2nd. This excites me. 

5 minutes ago, ron883 said:

The Sox were awesome during extras with the man on 2nd. This excites me. 

Manfred update coming....in the 11th, 2nd base will be eliminated altogether as runners will go from 1B directly to 3B.  I'm excited for this change.

25 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

Fuck that

11 minutes ago, ron883 said:

The Sox were awesome during extras with the man on 2nd. This excites me. 

Were they?  Why do I remember Crochet botching a handful of games?

26 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

As long as you give it 2 innings to finish organicallY and only start it in the 12th. In the 10th is an awful rule. 

12 minutes ago, ron883 said:

The Sox were awesome during extras with the man on 2nd. This excites me. 

They were 6-7 last year and 1-2 in 2020.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Were they?  Why do I remember Crochet botching a handful of games?

I believe he was quite bad with inherited runners.

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