These clowns should be in vaudeville. 

Bright side take is this team is still just not hitting the ball and cannot possibly keep this level of suck up all season. 

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams can not be allowed to make the seller trades. 

It is the one thing they did right.

1 minute ago, ScooterMcGuire said:

How do you fix this.

Have JR sell the team is the only way out

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Three of those guys could easily be on the wrong side of the age spectrum

Appears to be correct but Sheets is going to improve to make up for it. 

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

It is the one thing they did right.

Yeah, but they don't deserve a chance to fix this. They done fucked up. Pink slip for both. 

1 minute ago, JoeCredeYes said:

Bright side take is this team is still just not hitting the ball and cannot possibly keep this level of suck up all season. 

Devils advocate is we’ve played a lot of crappy hitting teams so far.

1 minute ago, JoeCredeYes said:

Bright side take is this team is still just not hitting the ball and cannot possibly keep this level of suck up all season. 

Sure they can 

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Yeah, but they don't deserve a chance to fix this. They done fucked up. Pink slip for both. 

Tony needs to go first. He’s such an anchor on this team’s momentum.

4 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Famous last words and all of that, but the lineup is too talented to underperform like this for an entire season. Robert, Abreu, Grandal, & Pollock are all going to be good going forward. I think it's fair to question their depth (I have been doing so for 2 years and won't be stopping anytime soon) but the lineup will produce and there's enough pitching talent to make sure that doesn't bottom out either.

But I also don't think they're a lock for 90+ wins like most on here would have thought 10 days ago.

There's no guarantees on any hitter at age 34 like Pollock, especially with this baseball.

The depth of that Dodgers' lineup simply makes the complementary players look so much better.

Like Harrison, peak fWARs last year masked struggles or injury problems in earlier seasons.

Also no guarantees with Grandal and Abreu either.  Only Robert and Moncada are solid bets.

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Just now, fathom said:

Devils advocate is we’ve played a lot of crappy hitting teams so far.

Every team is hitting crappy the White Sox as seems to be a the case too often cannot get the big hit when needed. 

It seems Grandal and Abreu have hit the age wall and Harrison/Leury were never all that good to begin with. 

I am starting to think the players are trying to get Tony fired 

 

Just now, caulfield12 said:

There's no guarantees on any hitter at age 34 especially with this baseball.

The depth of that Dodgers' lineup simply makes the complementary players look so much better.

Like Harrison, peak fWARs last year masked struggles or injury problems in earlier seasons.

Also no guarantees with Grandal and Abreu either.  Only Robert and Moncada are solid bets.

Vaughn is solid to continue 

Quick question for those in the know....how is Carlos Perez' defense behind the plate?

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

It seems Grandal and Abreu have hit the age wall and Harrison/Leury were never all that good to begin with. 

Aside from the 4 morons in charge who the fuck thought Harrison and Garcia were "all that good?"

Can Michael Reinsdorf take over the Sox too?  And do a similar house cleaning?

2 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said:

Have JR sell the team is the only way out

In the middle of the season?

Better strike fast before the stock market craters further. 

Would take pretty much anyone but Elon Musk.  Then I would have to seriously look at fandom.

Just now, fathom said:

Tony needs to go first. He’s such an anchor on this team’s momentum.

We all know this, but Tony will have to quit because Jerry won't allow him to be fired. 

Only because of the unceremoniousness of getting fired. If they can convince Tony to go back to the home in a couple weeks, then maybe this group can be salvaged. But it looks like another rebuild is coming. 

1 minute ago, soxfan49 said:

Aside from the 4 morons in charge who the fuck thought Harrison and Garcia were "all that good?"

Nobody. 

ill celebrate the day Jerry is no longer with us and Hahn/FO gets canned

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Three of those guys could easily be on the wrong side of the age spectrum

The only one I have concerns about there is Abreu. Pollock will be fine IMO, this was only his sixth start of the season and he clearly should've gotten a rehab stint to get his timing back. I know this forum generally hates Grandal, but while it's unlikely that he'll be as good as he was last year (I'm not sure if we'll ever see that kind of output from a White Sox catcher again), he's streaky and starting to make better contact at least over the last few games

2 minutes ago, wegner said:

Quick question for those in the know....how is Carlos Perez' defense behind the plate?

Solid/above average.  Just don't buy the Charlotte offensive numbers though.

Just now, Jose Abreu said:

The only one I have concerns about there is Abreu. Pollock will be fine IMO, this was only his sixth start of the season and he clearly should've gotten a rehab stint to get his timing back. I know this forum generally hates Grandal, but while it's unlikely that he'll be as good as he was last year (I'm not sure if we'll ever see that kind of output from a White Sox catcher again), he's streaky and starting to make better contact at least over the last few games

I think Yaz and Pollock might have hit the age wall too. Father time comes for everyone.

The ball might be affecting Yaz negatively because his whole offensive game is based on 2B and HR.