southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Turns out they probably should have fired Tony. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Almost the exact same roster was 54-35 at the all star break last year. They were 46-46, or 9.5 games worse this year. This roster is not 10 games worse than last year talent wise, after basically no changes in the off season. This same roster has seen almost every single player put up a markedly worse performances except for a limited few individuals. While this might not be a World Champion roster, it is one that should be lapping the AL Central. Thanks for coming to my #FireTony talk. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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South Side Hit Men Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) Alright, let me hear you. Cue me in Nancy! Edited July 24, 2022 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited July 24, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 For the love of all that's sacred please get rid of this dud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Wrong thread. It's never the wrong thread....just add Fire Tony and it's all good. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Almost the exact same roster was 54-35 at the all star break last year. They were 46-46, or 9.5 games worse this year. This roster is not 10 games worse than last year talent wise, after basically no changes in the off season. This same roster has seen almost every single player put up a markedly worse performances except for a limited few individuals. While this might not be a World Champion roster, it is one that should be lapping the AL Central. Thanks for coming to my #FireTony talk. A terrible off season, injuries and TLR will have a 9.5 game negative effect on things. The real question is, which of those three is the biggest to lay the blame on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, soulfly said: A terrible off season, injuries and TLR will have a 9.5 game negative effect on things. The real question is, which of those three is the biggest to lay the blame on? Last year's team wasn't exactly a picture of health and, as noted above, the team from a talent perspective is more or less the same as last year (the terrible off season was failing to make the team better than last year). This leaves one primary option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Spumoni said: Last year's team wasn't exactly a picture of health and, as noted above, the team from a talent perspective is more or less the same as last year (the terrible off season was failing to make the team better than last year). This leaves one primary option. It's RIck Hahn. He is awful and should not be the GM of any team, in any league, anywhere. Not even if there was a GM for something clown related and run entirely by clowns. They could still find a better option than him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 10 hours ago, soulfly said: It's RIck Hahn. He is awful and should not be the GM of any team, in any league, anywhere. Not even if there was a GM for something clown related and run entirely by clowns. They could still find a better option than him. ^ THIS Still, FIRE TONY - add yesterday’s idiocy to the mountain of evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 14 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Almost the exact same roster was 54-35 at the all star break last year. They were 46-46, or 9.5 games worse this year. This roster is not 10 games worse than last year talent wise, after basically no changes in the off season. This same roster has seen almost every single player put up a markedly worse performances except for a limited few individuals. While this might not be a World Champion roster, it is one that should be lapping the AL Central. Thanks for coming to my #FireTony talk. Obviously they should have kept the manager from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Does a Cleveland curbstomping today incite some movement after the Sox looking like absolute trash all weekend, awful management and finishing our ultra important 19 games against the ALC 9-10? If so, go Guardians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Does a Cleveland curbstomping today incite some movement after the Sox looking like absolute trash all weekend, awful management and finishing our ultra important 19 games against the ALC 9-10? If so, go Guardians. Nothing is going to start the movement of firings at this point. TLR and Hahn are both safe. I truly believe Jerry just doesn’t care at this point 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, Texsox said: Obviously they should have kept the manager from last year. The one who collapsed in the second half? I mean sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: The one who collapsed in the second half? I mean sure. You were comparing first half last year with first half this year. Same basic team, same manager, much different results. The conclusion is it's the manager's fault. While I believe that's a great first step, I started this thread after all, but it hides too many other problems. This shit show is bigger than just TLR. It's a three legged stool with players, front office, and coaching staff. They all have regressed and are failing beyond what could be expected from one year. As you noted the players are putting up much worse numbers. I also seriously wonder if Tony is experiencing diminished mental function over the last year. Stroke? Dementia? It's a private matter with the team but I would hope a condition of his continued employment is a full medical workup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Texsox said: I also seriously wonder if Tony is experiencing diminished mental function over the last year. Stroke? Dementia? It's a private matter with the team but I would hope a condition of his continued employment is a full medical workup. You’re calling for higher health standards than the country has held the two most recent POTUS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: You’re calling for higher health standards than the country has held the two most recent POTUS. Or Reagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Texsox said: Or Reagan. Or JFK, FDR, and Woodrow / “Edith”. That just covers the past eighteen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pcq Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Sox should sponsor a Fire Tony night and invite Steve Dahl to MC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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