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If the Sox trade for Juan Soto we have a chance.

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6 hours ago, bmags said:

Everyone can rest easy, the teams we are ostensibly competing against are about to add a top 3 player in baseball, but we can sign a bum ass conforto for next year in hopes he is good value.

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Conforto does nothing for this team this season and hardly moves the needle for them next season. Soto is exactly the type of player the Sox should be going all in to acquire. An absolute perfect fit for this roster. Send Eloy, Sheets, Martin, and the entire farm system for all I care. Acquiring Soto to man LF everyday makes the Sox a bonafide contender this season and next. Vaughn can DH, spot start in OF and 1b. Engel/Pollock can cover RF well enough, especially when you’ve got them batting 8th in the lineup.

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  • soxfan49
    soxfan49

    There is no way that's what it would take It would be more like Montgomery, Colas, Sosa, Kopech and Vaughn  It would also take an owner who would give out a deal like that which the Sox *che

  • HOFHurt35
    HOFHurt35

    Stop

  • Just to clarify, a franchise that has never given out any 100 mil deals would now give out a 500 mil contract.  Sounds unlikely.

26 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

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Conforto does nothing for this team this season and hardly moves the needle for them next season. Soto is exactly the type of player the Sox should be going all in to acquire. An absolute perfect fit for this roster. Send Eloy, Sheets, Martin, and the entire farm system for all I care. Acquiring Soto to man LF everyday makes the Sox a bonafide contender this season and next. Vaughn can DH, spot start in OF and 1b. Engel/Pollock can cover RF well enough, especially when you’ve got them batting 8th in the lineup.

Yeah, that’s not getting it done.

32 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeah, that’s not getting it done.

Come on Bob those 3 names where just an example, he's knows that won't get it done because he followed it up by saying the entire farm for all he cared. The Sox do have talent to work with. Remember its not the rankings of minor leaguers so much as it is what their scouts think of the talent. To fans looking at the rankings in a trade makes it look prettier.But Montgomery is a fast riser who could be in the top 10 or close too it when the season ends and Colas could be in close to the top 50. Just just have to finish the season like they started it through their promotions to higher levels. So far its going great . That may or may not help the Sox in a major trade but it could.

42 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeah, that’s not getting it done.

I think the Sox have the bullets to get it done without including Vaughn or Kopech if Corbin is included in the deal as rumored (and I am assuming the Nats eat some of his salary too).

4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I think the Sox have the bullets to get it done without including Vaughn or Kopech if Corbin is included in the deal as rumored (and I am assuming the Nats eat some of his salary too).

What rumored deal?

If Corbin being in the deal is a requirement, I think that alone would take the Sox out of the running. Best case scenario, I suppose, would be using prospects to flip him to a 3rd team but that's not going to happen. Jerry avoids "bad" contracts like they're the plague.

2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

If Corbin being in the deal is a requirement, I think that alone would take the Sox out of the running. Best case scenario, I suppose, would be using prospects to flip him to a 3rd team but that's not going to happen. Jerry avoids "bad" contracts like they're the plague.

I just don’t think it would scare many teams away, including Corbin that is. Just lowers price for said teams with better farms. Dodgers would be fine.

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2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I just don’t think it would scare many teams away, including Corbin that is. Just lowers price for said teams with better farms. Dodgers would be fine.

I agree, but I think it would be enough to scare Jerry away, which is the only thing that matters.

Just now, maxjusttyped said:

I agree, but I think it would be enough to scare Jerry away, which is the only thing that matters.

Agreed

6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I just don’t think it would scare many teams away, including Corbin that is. Just lowers price for said teams with better farms. Dodgers would be fine.

I’m not so sure about that. Even teams like the Dodgers have been very mindful of the luxury tax limit in recent years and I’m not sure what a contract like Corbin’s would do to their payroll relative to the limit.

9 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

If Corbin being in the deal is a requirement, I think that alone would take the Sox out of the running. Best case scenario, I suppose, would be using prospects to flip him to a 3rd team but that's not going to happen. Jerry avoids "bad" contracts like they're the plague.

The good news is that Corbin only has 2+ seasons remaining on his contract and like I said I would assume Nats are eating some percentage of it. Obviously Jerry and most other teams would balk at the requirement of taking on his entire salary in a deal for Soto unless the asking price is greatly reduced. If the Nats eat no money, the combined salary of Soto and Corbin is pretty much what Soto would make on the open market and there would be very little surplus value from the Nats end in such a deal.

31 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

What rumored deal?

Yes - what is indeed?

2 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Yes - what is indeed?

It's probably a screenshot of BaseballTradeValues somebody from White Sox Twitter cooked up.

24 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I’m not so sure about that. Even teams like the Dodgers have been very mindful of the luxury tax limit in recent years and I’m not sure what a contract like Corbin’s would do to their payroll relative to the limit.

Not exactly the kind of move the Sox would make either to be honest.

29 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I think the Sox have the bullets to get it done without including Vaughn or Kopech if Corbin is included in the deal as rumored (and I am assuming the Nats eat some of his salary too).

I don't believe for a minute that the Sox could afford taking on Corbin even if  the Nats eat half his salary. Do you know how much Soto is going to make in arbitration for 2023 and 2024 ? It could set arbitration salary records. If you take on half of Corbin's salary plus Soto's arb. salaries for those 2.5 years your looking at maybe $40+M per year for Soto + Corbin who is useless to a contending team.

If Corbin is in a deal for Soto it will be to one of the big spending teams. But I think in the end Corbin won't be a part of any deal unless the Nats eat way more than half his salary.

The Sox have huge hill to climb if they want to get Soto and not have his presence diminished by trading Vaughn or Kopech. This is why it won't happen. The Nats would have to be interested in Eloy and that's a huge obstacle too. I give Seattle , Yanks or Dodgers the best shots at getting Soto.

Yeaaaaah they’re not trading for Soto guys. You can bet on that.

48 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeaaaaah they’re not trading for Soto guys. You can bet on that.

I'd bet on no Soto and not think twice.

Mental masturbation is fun however. Coming on your brain is pretty next level.

White Sox have a scout at the dodgers game. He doesn’t like talking very much.

That is all.

33 minutes ago, hi8is said:

White Sox have a scout at the dodgers game. He doesn’t like talking very much.

That is all.

They're gonna trade for Rodon if the Giants go into sell mode. ?

1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

They're gonna trade for Rodon if the Giants go into sell mode. ?

He’s been taking a lot of notes during Peterson and Bellinger at bats.

Lots of interest in Lux’s at bats too.

3 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:

If Corbin being in the deal is a requirement, I think that alone would take the Sox out of the running. Best case scenario, I suppose, would be using prospects to flip him to a 3rd team but that's not going to happen. Jerry avoids "bad" contracts like they're the plague.

Rick Hahn, however, does not.

29 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

They're gonna trade for Rodon if the Giants go into sell mode. ?

Might as well bring back Gonzalez and Yermin while they're at it...

16 hours ago, shago said:

WE ARE NOT IN THE MIX. Top talent does not want to play for this [organization]. STOP

In a trade situation they don't have a choice.  You trade for him, he's gonna play or sit out.  I see nothing in it for him to sit out for the next 2 seasons.  

Dodgers seem to be more focused on Luis Castillo despite Bellinger slide and Taylor injury…

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