Your 2023 Off-Season Plan

[southsider2k5]

12 minutes ago, hi8is said:

What in the world would we get for Robert… and then we’d have 2.5 outfield openings ??

What if it was the focal point of a Ohtani deal?

[ChiSox59]

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

What if it was the focal point of a Ohtani deal?

6 years Robert >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 year Ohtani. 

[southsider2k5]

6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

6 years Robert >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 year Ohtani. 

Honestly it is almost certainly BS. 

[HoosierSox]

Hahn will trade the only outfielder on the roster for a couple of relievers. That's the White Sox way.

[hi8is]

13 hours ago, HoosierSox said:

Hahn will trade the only outfielder on the roster for a couple of relievers. That's the White Sox way.

As long as one is Craig Kimbrel, then I will approve.

[TheFutureIsNear]

Thoughts on buying low on Jarred Kelenic? Seems like he should be available with the Mariners in win now mode and rumors pointing to them still looking to add another OF’er. Don’t know where the value lies in a Kelenic for Graveman deal lands, but I don’t hate the idea of gambling on a big upside LH OF’er without spending $.

[Balta1701]

30 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Thoughts on buying low on Jarred Kelenic? Seems like he should be available with the Mariners in win now mode and rumors pointing to them still looking to add another OF’er. Don’t know where the value lies in a Kelenic for Graveman deal lands, but I don’t hate the idea of gambling on a big upside LH OF’er without spending $.

Well the downside is that he’s been a -2 win player so far in his career so I get the concept but it’s way more of a “rebuilding team” move. If he is that bad again that could cost the White Sox a chance at the wild card if a lot of other things went right. That’s the kind of move they should have been making in like 2018-2019.

If they were going to sell off a couple other pieces to save money, then why not?

 

[SoCalChiSox]

57 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Thoughts on buying low on Jarred Kelenic? Seems like he should be available with the Mariners in win now mode and rumors pointing to them still looking to add another OF’er. Don’t know where the value lies in a Kelenic for Graveman deal lands, but I don’t hate the idea of gambling on a big upside LH OF’er without spending $.

I'd rather have Kelenic than Haniger, Kepler etc. 

[Jack Parkman]

2 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Thoughts on buying low on Jarred Kelenic? Seems like he should be available with the Mariners in win now mode and rumors pointing to them still looking to add another OF’er. Don’t know where the value lies in a Kelenic for Graveman deal lands, but I don’t hate the idea of gambling on a big upside LH OF’er without spending $.

This, but only if you have a decent contingency plan. Something like Brantley. 

[Balta1701]

2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

This, but only if you have a decent contingency plan. Something like Brantley. 

In that case, Kelenic is the contingency plan.

[Jack Parkman]

1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

In that case, Kelenic is the contingency plan.

No, Colas is. You bring in Kelenic and Brantley and if Kelenic or Brantley sucks, Colas is ready to be called up. 

[Chicago White Sox]

The more I think about it, the more I think Hendriks gets moved.  He just seems like a luxury we can’t afford at the moment and he should actually bring legit value back given what relief pitchers are going for right now.  Additionally, moving him would free up some payroll and give us more flexibility to address other needs.  Both the Yankees & Dodgers could use an elite closer and there is no one is his stratosphere available in free agency.  And honestly, I also worry his arm is going to explode at some point next year.  Basically it just makes so much sense to trade him right now even if it weakens the current state of the bullpen, assuming a quality return can be attained.

[Bob Sacamano]

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The more I think about it, the more I think Hendriks gets moved.  He just seems like a luxury we can’t afford at the moment and he should actually bring legit value back given what relief pitchers are going for right now.  Additionally, moving him would free up some payroll and give us more flexibility to address other needs.  Both the Yankees & Dodgers could use an elite closer and there is no one is his stratosphere available in free agency.  And honestly, I also worry his arm is going to explode at some point next year.  Basically it just makes so much sense to trade him right now even if it weakens the current state of the bullpen, assuming a quality return can be attained.

I’m definitely open to moving him. Just gotta hope Graveman or Lopez can step into closer role. Wouldn’t be opposed to signing someone like Brad Boxberger for a year/$2M deal.

[Tnetennba]

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The more I think about it, the more I think Hendriks gets moved.  He just seems like a luxury we can’t afford at the moment and he should actually bring legit value back given what relief pitchers are going for right now.  Additionally, moving him would free up some payroll and give us more flexibility to address other needs.  Both the Yankees & Dodgers could use an elite closer and there is no one is his stratosphere available in free agency.  And honestly, I also worry his arm is going to explode at some point next year.  Basically it just makes so much sense to trade him right now even if it weakens the current state of the bullpen, assuming a quality return can be attained.

If they are trading from the 26 man roster to fill elsewhere Hendriks would probably be at the top of my list as well.  I too am concerned about his arm and I feel like they can fill his role easier in house.  I do wonder how his wonky contract impacts the potential return. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

21 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Thoughts on buying low on Jarred Kelenic? Seems like he should be available with the Mariners in win now mode and rumors pointing to them still looking to add another OF’er. Don’t know where the value lies in a Kelenic for Graveman deal lands, but I don’t hate the idea of gambling on a big upside LH OF’er without spending $.

Pretty sure I mentioned Kelenic at the trade deadline for the same reasons you are. No idea how little it would cost to get him but worth checking into.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

28 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The more I think about it, the more I think Hendriks gets moved.  He just seems like a luxury we can’t afford at the moment and he should actually bring legit value back given what relief pitchers are going for right now.  Additionally, moving him would free up some payroll and give us more flexibility to address other needs.  Both the Yankees & Dodgers could use an elite closer and there is no one is his stratosphere available in free agency.  And honestly, I also worry his arm is going to explode at some point next year.  Basically it just makes so much sense to trade him right now even if it weakens the current state of the bullpen, assuming a quality return can be attained.

Now you're on my wavelength. You come around eventually ?

[SoxBlanco]

31 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The more I think about it, the more I think Hendriks gets moved.  He just seems like a luxury we can’t afford at the moment and he should actually bring legit value back given what relief pitchers are going for right now.  Additionally, moving him would free up some payroll and give us more flexibility to address other needs.  Both the Yankees & Dodgers could use an elite closer and there is no one is his stratosphere available in free agency.  And honestly, I also worry his arm is going to explode at some point next year.  Basically it just makes so much sense to trade him right now even if it weakens the current state of the bullpen, assuming a quality return can be attained.

I wouldn’t mind trading Hendriks as long as we used the money to sign Nimmo (or some other big contract).  

[MackowiakYakYak]

Agree with everyone on moving Hendriks. Relief is the only spot where I'd prefer to have 2 war split between two players rather than having one elite reliever. Intimidating bullpens are created by having good pitchers to cover the 6th-9th, not just focusing on the 9th with occasional long saves. This team had a solid enough bullpen last year and it meant nothing because the team was out of too many games by the 5th inning. We have a solid enough stable of relievers to not turn RP into a weakness if we trade Hendriks.

[Chicago White Sox]

6 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

I wouldn’t mind trading Hendriks as long as we used the money to sign Nimmo (or some other big contract).  

Nimmo would be awesome, but who else would you consider a big contract?

[Chicago White Sox]

10 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Now you're on my wavelength. You come around eventually ?

I had trading Hendriks in my off-season plan, so I’ve been open to it for a while. I think we’d looking for different things though.

[NCsoxfan]

Trade Hendriks, TA, and Graveman.  

Sign Trea Turner.

Trade for Sean Murphy and Eguy Rosario.

Sign Clevinger 

Sign Dodger LH free agent Jason Martin to platoon in RF

Edited November 27, 2022 by NCsoxfan

[SoxBlanco]

15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Nimmo would be awesome, but who else would you consider a big contract?

I didn’t really have another player in mind. I was thinking Nimmo or one of the shortstops (which won’t happen). 

[Chicago White Sox]

Just now, SoxBlanco said:

I didn’t really have another player in mind. I was thinking Nimmo or one of the shortstops (which won’t happen). 

I don’t see us moving Tim unless the team completely falls part and they trade him at the deadline.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I had trading Hendriks in my off-season plan, so I’ve been open to it for a while. I think we’d looking for different things though.

Yea probably but it's not like my OF plan isn't needed . You can do worse than getting MLB ready talent who are going to give u speed and defense in the OF with hitting upside with years of control.Upgrades are upgrades . wherever they are. It sure fits the budget better than piecemealing guys who cost more for a year or 2. That's usually the Hahn plan that hasn't been working too well. We criticize him and want him fired but most of you are throwing the same names around he would and get the same bad results or short term decent results. Hahn talked about a 10 year + run of playoffs. So far he's accomplished nothing. There has to be more depth. There's nothing in the OF in AAA or the Sox . It's beyond pitiful. When does long lasting team building happen ? No SP depth either.

[Chicago White Sox]

4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Yea probably but it's not like my OF plan isn't needed . You can do worse than getting MLB ready talent who are going to give u speed and defense in the OF with hitting upside with years of control.Upgrades are upgrades . wherever they are. It sure fits the budget better than piecemealing guys who cost more for a year or 2. That's usually the Hahn plan that hasn't been working too well. We criticize him and want him fired but most of you are throwing the same names around he would and get the same bad results or short term decent results. Hahn talked about a 10 year + run of playoffs. So far he's accomplished nothing. There has to be more depth. There's nothing in the OF in AAA or the Sox . It's beyond pitiful. When does long lasting team building happen ? No SP depth either.

The SP depth in the system is actually getting better, but AAA is going to be light without another addition.  Right now there is a ton of pressure on Sean Burke to step up his game & fast, because he’s literally two injuries away from being in the major league rotation.