55 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Lol imagine getting rid of Tim Anderson and Abreu in the same offseason. How stupid could this franchise get?

Apples and Oranges

Abreu was a 4 win player last year and arguably the glue that held this island of misfit toys together

TA was a 2 win shortstop who has off the field/clubhouse issues, who's one trick is hitting for average

I was/am pissed that Abreu is gone, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if TA was traded, in fact I kind of want it to happen because we could probably get a decent haul in an overpay

2 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Perhaps not but he's still going to get well over 100m on his next deal and it won't be here so we might as well restock the cupboard now rather than getting nothing later.

Well yeah. Just saying he’s not top tier like these guys.

1 minute ago, LittleHurtCG said:

What manager in the history of baseball was getting the White Sox past Houston in 2021? 

Well we know for a fact is wasn't Tony who absolutely cratered this team.

2 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said:

What manager in the history of baseball was getting the White Sox past Houston in 2021? 

Presumably one that is awake in the dugout.

Just now, LittleHurtCG said:

What manager in the history of baseball was getting the White Sox past Houston in 2021? 

With an average White Sox manager throughout the season, the White Sox and Astros are heading into a game 5 matchup at the Rate with either Lynn or Giolito on mount with full rest at the very worst. I can give you a managerial flop that was a major factor in each loss of that series - they may not all have turned to wins, but there was a good reason to believe they should have been better in each of the games they lost. 

2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

He got picked up by the Giants midseason and did get a short stint with their big league team. He was released in October and is a free agent unless someone signed him recently.

Sounds about right. Was that Yerminator burger any good? Did anyone ever try it? 

1 minute ago, Quin said:

Presumably one that is awake in the dugout.

As the great American philosopher John Madden once put it:

"Boom"

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Well we know for a fact is wasn't Tony who absolutely cratered this team.

So nobody? Sounds about right. 

3 minutes ago, Quin said:

Presumably one that is awake in the dugout.

So TLR is the reason the Sox didn't beat Houston in 2021 and no the players? 

2022 was likley all on Tony, but don't think you can say the same for 2021. 

Just now, LittleHurtCG said:

So TLR is the reason the Sox didn't beat Houston in 2021 and no the players? 

2022 was likley all on Tony, but don't think you can say the same for 2021. 

Yes. Do you really want me to drag up all the details?

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

With an average White Sox manager throughout the season, the White Sox and Astros are heading into a game 5 matchup at the Rate with either Lynn or Giolito on mount with full rest at the very worst. I can give you a managerial flop that was a major factor in each loss of that series - they may not all have turned to wins, but there was a good reason to believe they should have been better in each of the games they lost. 

This is a bunch of word salad nonsense. You could say the same thing about any manager and different outcomes in like 80% of all postseason series. 

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Yes. Do you really want me to drag up all the details?

We all know you have it saved somewhere Balta. DO IT.

 

6 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

Apples and Oranges

Abreu was a 4 win player last year and arguably the glue that held this island of misfit toys together

TA was a 2 win shortstop who has off the field/clubhouse issues, who's one trick is hitting for average

I was/am pissed that Abreu is gone, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if TA was traded, in fact I kind of want it to happen because we could probably get a decent haul in an overpay

Tim averages 57 extra base hits per 162 - you would classify that as someone "who's one trick is hitting for average"? I certainly don't. 

10 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I think I'm done as an active fan. God speed to those still hanging on. I'm too old for this s%*#.

I feel your pain and as well have become less active the longer I see how this organization operates. I think back to the days of Bill Veeck and smile.

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1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Yes. Do you really want me to drag up all the details?

Please do. Please show me how the 2021 White Sox were a better team than the 2021 Houston Astros. This should be fun. 

It's probably a great time to trade TA.  The Sox could get a very nice return for him.  I doubt he's here past when the Sox have control over him anyway.

His star seemed to have fallen in Chicago.  To me, he just doesn't seem like THAT guy anymore.  I like him, but if they Sox can get a haul for him, pull the trigger.

6 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said:

So nobody? Sounds about right. 

Literally anyone would have given us a better chance. 

11 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

Apples and Oranges

Abreu was a 4 win player last year and arguably the glue that held this island of misfit toys together

TA was a 2 win shortstop who has off the field/clubhouse issues, who's one trick is hitting for average

I was/am pissed that Abreu is gone, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if TA was traded, in fact I kind of want it to happen because we could probably get a decent haul in an overpay

Nah. I've never seen anyone embrace the southside culture like Tim has. He is the face of the franchise. A great player worth even more because what he brings alongside him. And well he may not be perfect, he goes out and hangs with kids in the projects on his off days because he thinks it the right thing to do. Would be a real slap in the face to the fans to trade your two stars. Being the lone person to play with energy has somehow made him a clubhouse cancer, apparently.

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3 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said:

This is a bunch of word salad nonsense. You could say the same thing about any manager and different outcomes in like 80% of all postseason series. 

Talk about accidentally falling on to the point.

Baseball Trade Values has Busch, Outman and Pepiot almost identical in value to Anderson, FWIW. 

Man, get Correa and Swanson signed already, we need legit Sox moves

13 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I think I'm done as an active fan. God speed to those still hanging on. I'm too old for this s%*#.

Haven’t you done this I quit thing a few times 

Just now, Buehrle>Wood said:

Nah. I've never seen anyone embrace the southside culture like Tim has. He is the face of the franchise. A great player worth even more because what he brings alongside him. And well he may not be perfect, he goes out and hangs with kids in the projects on his off days because he thinks it the right thing to do. Would be a real slap in the face. Being the lone person to play with energy has somehow made him a clubhouse cancer, apparently.

Of all of the people to get crapped on in this organization for his off of the field actions, I have no idea why TA is the guy that gets picked.  Well I guess I do, but that is a whole different thing that would cause so many meltdowns it isn't even worth it.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Of all of the people to get crapped on in this organization for his off of the field actions, I have no idea why TA is the guy that gets picked.  Well I guess I do, but that is a whole different thing that would cause so many meltdowns it isn't even worth it.

Go on

Who the hell plays SS when Tim is gone? Romy Gonzalez? Leury?  I do not understand wanting to trade Tim. He is far from perfect, but he is definitely an above average shortstop. Montgomery may or may not be ready next year.

1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said:

Haven’t you done this I quit thing a few times 

They will pull me back in eventually but for now I'm done and it's reflected in my post count here since the trade deadline. Think I've made maybe half a dozen. I really just don't care about this club.

I didn't bother to post on it until now but Hahn's comment about how they were projected to runaway with the division so they didn't sign anybody big last year really, and I mean really, pissed me the f*** off.

PROJECTIONS LIKE THAT ARE WHEN YOU GO ALL IN YOU ARROGANT f***. STOP TREATING YOUR FANS LIKE IDIOTS.