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Ghost runner rule now permanent

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2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Stupid

It should start no earlier than the 13th. Gives teams another turn through the batting order to try to win it the old way.

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2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

It should start no earlier than the 13th. Gives teams another turn through the batting order to try to win it the old way.

I completely agree.  12th or 13th, no earlier.

It was awesome.  Absolutely loved it.  Game is too slow, and takes too long.  This adds instant action

6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

It should start no earlier than the 13th. Gives teams another turn through the batting order to try to win it the old way.

My argument is they already had 9 innings to win the "old way", and weren't able to

2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

My argument is they already had 9 innings to win the "old way", and weren't able to

Yeah I get it. I don’t necessarily “hate it” I just wouldn’t start the 10th. Even 11th would be better.

f*** Manfred

Didn't they figure out this did nothing to shorten games?

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4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Didn't they figure out this did nothing to shorten games?

MLB and improving the quality of the product, can't say I'm overly familiar with that concept.

10 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

f*** Manfred

Twice.

What I don't understand is if they love this rule so much, how come they don't use it in the playoffs?

HATE IT.

Absolutely hate that baseball continues to cater to people that don't like baseball.

3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

What I don't understand is if they love this rule so much, how come they don't use it in the playoffs?

I think its purely to avoid the handful of marathon games each season that obviously the players hate, the staff hates, and it ruins pens for weeks.  But its rare, and it stupid to ruin all extra inning games for that.

Start the rule in the 12th.  I could live with that.  

I guess I "get it", but still hate it.  

A good compromise would have been having the runner start at 1st instead of 2nd.  It's a stupid rule as is and cheapens extra innings games.

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40 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

My argument is they already had 9 innings to win the "old way", and weren't able to

I agree. No reason to burn a bunch of arms in a long season because of extra innings games especially if you happen to be one of those teams that goes too extra innings often. This isn't the old days when pitchers could throw so many innings. Most relievers are good for only 1 inning these days.

You can't be a traditionalist if the game has changed and it has.

1 hour ago, Tnetennba said:

 

But how much is a ghost run worth??

Hate this garbage.

Manfred must be a NASCAR fan.

Young France has turned NASCAR into the WWE.

Manfred wants to "tinker" with the rules every year just like his buddy, France.

Inquiring mind motherfuckers.

I’m in the minority, but I love this rule. I don’t see how it detracts from the game in any way, and it helps to make witnessing the end of games more accessible. I haven’t seen any downsides whatsoever; the only reason to dislike it is to dislike change in general. 

6 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:

I’m in the minority, but I love this rule. I don’t see how it detracts from the game in any way, and it helps to make witnessing the end of games more accessible. I haven’t seen any downsides whatsoever; the only reason to dislike it is to dislike change in general. 

The one thing I really hate about it is who gets put on second. It could be a big advantage to some team all because a really fast guy made an out. While I understand extra innings aren't always that equal depending where you are in the line up, it seems odd to reward a team for an out. And if the rule is so great, why don't they include it in the playoffs. Pitching can be even more scarce then. 

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2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I agree. No reason to burn a bunch of arms in a long season because of extra innings games especially if you happen to be one of those teams that goes too extra innings often. This isn't the old days when pitchers could throw so many innings. Most relievers are good for only 1 inning these days.

You can't be a traditionalist if the game has changed and it has.

I think this puts it perfectly

 

 

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why don't we just do it for every inning.....? so dumb.

10th inning: No Ghost Runner
11th inning: Ghost Runner on first
12th inning: Ghost Runner on 2nd
13th inning: Ghost Runner on 3rd
14th inning: First and Third
15th inning: Second and Third
16th inning and on: Bases Loaded 

1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

The one thing I really hate about it is who gets put on second. It could be a big advantage to some team all because a really fast guy made an out. While I understand extra innings aren't always that equal depending where you are in the line up, it seems odd to reward a team for an out. And if the rule is so great, why don't they include it in the playoffs. Pitching can be even more scarce then. 

I agree that’s the closest thing to a problem. But I guess I feel like it’s natural for varying base running skills and batting order luck to factor into the game situation. Admittedly that’s just a personal feeling, but it just seems to line up with how the game already sort of works — like you’re in an extra inning situation, you have an advantage of the good part of your batting order is up, etc.

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