wegner Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Grifol "defends" his expensive bullpen to DVS of the Sun-Times: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/4/18/23688403/white-sox-manager-on-beleaguered-bullpen-i-believe-in-these-guys I would have liked Pedro to "defend" his bullpen by going after Buckner for that crap call in game 1 that helped to change the game from a 1 run to a 3 run contest. Totally different ballgame being down 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 BE MORE POSITIVE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: BE MORE POSITIVE Ha. This is great and good advice. I'll be more positive once they actually win two games in a row. Hopefully that happens this afternoon! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 17 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Grifol "defends" his expensive bullpen to DVS of the Sun-Times: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/4/18/23688403/white-sox-manager-on-beleaguered-bullpen-i-believe-in-these-guys To say otherwise, would be to disrespect Rick Hahn. That he won't even approach that is why he was hired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game. Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Were getting close to "This team is going to lose 100 plus games..." watch The next 4 series are brutal 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, reiks12 said: This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game. Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf Any ohtani level types at 1-1? if we draft one we will only need half a dozen more like him to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 17 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Grifol "defends" his expensive bullpen to DVS of the Sun-Times: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/4/18/23688403/white-sox-manager-on-beleaguered-bullpen-i-believe-in-these-guys Grifol is not only is a questionable hire and quite possibly a terrible mistake as the Sox manager, but he is so annoying when he defends his mediocre players way too much to a fault. I was listening to the post game on the radio driving yesterday after game 1 and he kept saying how Lynn was just getting bad luck once again. He was so proud of Lynn outing and how he battled. He also went on and said he was so proud of all his guys in how hard they played. I realize the manager can't go overboard and blast his players too hard to the media, but he better at some point have a closed door team meeting and blast the crap out of them privately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, reiks12 said: This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game. Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf I agree it's all in the hands of the fans. Until they stop going and letting Reinsdorf and the FO see an empty stadium, the same crap will keep being put on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 51 minutes ago, reiks12 said: This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game. Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf Clevinger will likely be back next year. They will also sign a couple of veterans like Rich Hill and Danny Duffy to 1 year deals and hope to catch lighting in a bottle with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: I agree it's all in the hands of the fans. Until they stop going and letting Reinsdorf and the FO see an empty stadium, the same crap will keep being put on the field. That would play a factor but not as much as you think. It's not the 1960's anymore...MLB is a 10 Billion dollar a year business. The amount of money coming in to the teams from domestic and international sources is staggering. Even if the Sox were to draw say 800,000 for a season it wouldn't move the needle much, JR has already shown he doesn't care, they'd still be getting revenue from national and local TV/radio/advertising contracts which is a tremendous amount and then he'd just order Hahn to slice the payroll down to the bone (like during the rebuild years when the Sox had some of the lowest payrolls in MLB) and he'd make even more profit. Literally the only thing that can change the equation is JR leaving the scene and new ownership coming in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesieve30 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Why isn’t anyone saying that it is way too early to panic and we have plenty of time to turn it around? That is the normal comment abut how we are playing right now. Too small a sample for us to judge this team. Wait till the weather warms up, and when everyone gets healthy and when our manager gets a few more games under his belt, and Hahn brings in a couple of players that can help us or for Jerry to die or sell the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesieve30 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Why isn’t anyone saying that it is way too early to panic and we have plenty of time to turn it around? That is the normal comment abut how we are playing right now. Too small a sample for us to judge this team. Wait till the weather warms up, and when everyone gets healthy and when our manager gets a few more games under his belt, and Hahn brings in a couple of players that can help us or for Jerry to die or sell the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesieve30 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Instead of defending the bullpen, maybe it’s time to defund it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 This team/organization was DOA before the season started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesieve30 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: Clevinger will likely be back next year. They will also sign a couple of veterans like Rich Hill and Danny Duffy to 1 year deals and hope to catch lighting in a bottle with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesieve30 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Can anyone confirm that Hahn is inquiring about the availability of Jamie Moyer to spot start or in long relief? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: That would play a factor but not as much as you think. It's not the 1960's anymore...MLB is a 10 Billion dollar a year business. The amount of money coming in to the teams from domestic and international sources is staggering. Even if the Sox were to draw say 800,000 for a season it wouldn't move the needle much, JR has already shown he doesn't care, they'd still be getting revenue from national and local TV/radio/advertising contracts which is a tremendous amount and then he'd just order Hahn to slice the payroll down to the bone (like during the rebuild years when the Sox had some of the lowest payrolls in MLB) and he'd make even more profit. Literally the only thing that can change the equation is JR leaving the scene and new ownership coming in. You are probably totally right about the money aspect, but it would be an ugly look for Jerry to watch only 8-10k or even hopefully much less fans showing up. I would love Jerry to have to witness that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesieve30 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Can anyone confirm that Hahn is inquiring about the availability of Jamie Moyer to spot start or in long relief? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 minute ago, The Kids Can Play said: You are probably totally right about the money aspect, but it would be an ugly look for Jerry to watch only 8-10k or even hopefully much less fans showing up. I would love Jerry to have to witness that. He's seen it before and it doesn't bother him one iota. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesieve30 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Too bad Minnie Minoso is not alive, it could’ve been good for attendance if he could’ve played in an additional decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Just now, Lip Man 1 said: He's seen it before and it doesn't bother him one iota. I guess until he is gone and a new owner comes in, I guess we continue to be loyal machoistic fans that will continue saying. "Thank Jerry, may I have another." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Thesieve30 said: Can anyone confirm that Hahn is inquiring about the availability of Jamie Moyer to spot start or in long relief? He did. Out of the Sox price range. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 13 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: BE MORE POSITIVE 1 hour ago, T R U said: Were getting close to "This team is going to lose 100 plus games..." watch The next 4 series are brutal Yeah, the OP will end up looking like an optimist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Anyway…Vance Honeycutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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