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Highest chase rate in the MLB with the worse bullpen in MLB

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Vent here....

Organizational genius at its finest...or just dumb players.

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  • The white Sox front office is basically a baseball management fantasy camp for north shore failsons 

  • That maybe rang true like 30 years ago. Minor league systems are supposed to take care of plate approach and such. It’s an organizational responsibility to take talent and make it translate to bi

  • joejoesox
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    This board will be a ghost town in a couple weeks. 

Maybe the Sox just need an ophthalmologist 

The white Sox front office is basically a baseball management fantasy camp for north shore failsons 

The White Sox give up too many hard hit balls and walks, their hitters have too few hard hit balls and walks.

White Sox Pitching Staff

  • 30th WOBA on Contact (.428)
  • 29th in Hard Hit % (45.3%), Launch Angle (15.9) and Walks (92)
  • 28th in WOBA (.357)
  • 25th in Exit Velocity (90.1)

White Sox Batters

  • 29th in Launch Angle (9.1)  
  • 26th in WOBA on Contact (.352)
  • 25th in Exit Velocity (87.9), Hard Hit % (35.0) and Walks (54)
  • 19th in WOBA (.315)

Source MLB Stat Cast / baseballsavant.mlb.com

 

Starters' inefficiency, using c. 90 pitches to get through 5, isn't helping matters; it just necessitates more reliance on a questionable pen.

This board will be a ghost town in a couple weeks. 

I think they are free swingers and can't get it through their head not to chase off speed stuff. Why? In order to get noticed back on the island or in South America you had to HIT. Walks will not get you a big league contract. They just can't change, This mentality got them here. MLB pitchers exploit this, Will they learn in time? Some do.

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15 minutes ago, soxrwhite said:

I think they are free swingers and can't get it through their head not to chase off speed stuff. Why? In order to get noticed back on the island or in South America you had to HIT. Walks will not get you a big league contract. They just can't change, This mentality got them here. MLB pitchers exploit this, Will they learn in time? Some do.

Juan Soto, Gleyber Torres and rookie 2B of the Dodgers Vargas say hello…they didn’t let him swing for most of ST and it quickly paid dividends.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2023-01-01&enddate=2023-12-31&sort=9,d

32 minutes ago, soxrwhite said:

I think they are free swingers and can't get it through their head not to chase off speed stuff. Why? In order to get noticed back on the island or in South America you had to HIT. Walks will not get you a big league contract. They just can't change, This mentality got them here. MLB pitchers exploit this, Will they learn in time? Some do.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20778736/diving-walks-gap-us-born-latin-american-players

The White Sox also have very little team speed.  Of all 30 MLB teams, only the Giants have less team speed.

Just now, MikeKreevich said:

The White Sox also have very little team speed.  Of all 30 MLB teams, only the Giants have less team speed.

Exactly what you want with a slappy single team

They should fire the pitching and hitting coach.

Please change thread title to WORST or most horrific... 

 

 

I suppose it beared repeating.

59 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They should fire the pitching and hitting coach.

They should fire everyone, including the chairman.  Don’t ask me how that works ?

4 minutes ago, Snopek said:

 

I knew it was bad, but holy s%*#. 

The highest chase rate is now becoming a joke because they have too many wild free swinging hitters who are too stubborn or stupid to make adjustments. I also put blame Grifol who hired the hitting coach Jose Castro, who obviously isn't working enough with these undisciplined hitters over video to help them make adjustments.

Having a bullpen with an 6.30 ERA when their genius GM decided to go spend the #1 highest salary for a bullpen, at this point is just comical. 

This really bad Sox team is 7-14 and will probably get worse. Right now the Sox are 23rd in attendance at 19, 567. As this team continues to lose games, frustrate their fans and continue being a boring team to watch, I suspect the attendance will go down even further. 

2 hours ago, soxrwhite said:

I think they are free swingers and can't get it through their head not to chase off speed stuff. Why? In order to get noticed back on the island or in South America you had to HIT. Walks will not get you a big league contract. They just can't change, This mentality got them here. MLB pitchers exploit this, Will they learn in time? Some do.

That maybe rang true like 30 years ago.

Minor league systems are supposed to take care of plate approach and such. It’s an organizational responsibility to take talent and make it translate to big league success. We’ve taken talent and pissed it away.

14 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Starters' inefficiency, using c. 90 pitches to get through 5, isn't helping matters; it just necessitates more reliance on a questionable pen.

You're right but at some point where is Katz on helping to fix this problem?

14 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Starters' inefficiency, using c. 90 pitches to get through 5, isn't helping matters; it just necessitates more reliance on a questionable pen.

That is the modern game though. Hitters work counts and go deeper into each at bat.

 Couple that with max effort pitching that is emphasized now, and you get quicker hooks.

That even further underscores the failure of this bullpen.

52 minutes ago, JoeC said:

That is the modern game though. Hitters work counts and go deeper into each at bat.

 Couple that with max effort pitching that is emphasized now, and you get quicker hooks.

That even further underscores the failure of this bullpen.

I just looked up the stat on mlb.com.  Which pitchers are #s 2, 3 and 4 in Pitches/inning?

Cease, Lynn, Giolito

Sox take it to a new level.

1 hour ago, JoeC said:

That is the modern game though. Hitters work counts and go deeper into each at bat.

 

Not White Sox hitters!

Just now, Tomtom said:

Not White Sox hitters!

No. They’re not modern hitters.

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