August 8, 20232 yr Quote We do have a player…a position player who has fairly serious sleep issues. He has been given permission, and in fact encouraged, to sleep in the clubhouse at times. ?…Rick Hahn has confirmed there is indeed a clubhouse napper, but didn’t mention by name who the specific player was. All we know about the suspect is the following: He is a positional player and their sleep issues are “fairly serious” Clubhouse napping was proposed by new “Sports Performance Program” Veterans were upset after witnessing this napping “earlier in the season” I think two things are abundantly clear based on the evidence above. First, the player is likely a younger guy given vets felt it needed to be addressed with management. Second, the player is also likely relatively new to our clubhouse or else this issue would be more well known. By filtering on younger players in their first or second season with our club and were on the roster during the first half of the season, we get the following suspects: Oscar Colas Lenyn Sosa Carlos Perez Jose Rodriguez Adam Haseley Now looking at the list above, it’s hard to imagine Jose Rodriguez was up long enough to have created this whirlwind. The same applies to Carlos Perez, who was only up for a handful of games in May. That leaves Colás, Sosa, & Hasely as the primary suspects. From what I can gather, Colás’ energy level seems to be very high and it’s unlikely he’s suffering through “fairly serious” sleep issues. Now we’re down to two guys. And of the two, I think Haseley is the likelier suspect. IMO, napping mid-game means you’re riding some serious pine and simply put Adam has spent more time on the bench this season when on the active roster than Sosa has. While it could theoretically be Lenyn, the math suggests Hasely is the dude napping mid-game in the clubhouse. I think the case is pretty much solved, but please share your theories in this thread. I love a good mystery and look forward to Soxtalk eventually solving this caper.
August 9, 20232 yr I wondered who it is too. Doubt it’s Haseley - doesn’t even seem worth mentioning. I didn’t gather from Hahn’s comments that this guy was necessarily sleeping mid game. My mind went to Moncada and AV right away, mainly just due to their low key demeanors. But obviously those guys have been around, so wouldn’t be a new thing, though it sounds like the OKd clubhouse naps might be new. Possible Beni was that vet that mentioned as he’s a new guy and could have found it strange.
August 9, 20232 yr You're assuming Hahn is telling the truth about it being a position player. He very well may be; but Middleton's comment specifically said 'pitcher in the bullpen' and since he's usually there all the time (since he isn't a starter) he should know. The two comments simply don't add up, somebody is lying.
August 9, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: You're assuming Hahn is telling the truth about it being a position player. He very well may be; but Middleton's comment specifically said 'pitcher in the bullpen' and since he's usually there all the time (since he isn't a starter) he should know. The two comments simply don't add up, somebody is lying. And Middleton has nothing to gain from spilling the beans.
August 9, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I wondered who it is too. Doubt it’s Haseley - doesn’t even seem worth mentioning. I didn’t gather from Hahn’s comments that this guy was necessarily sleeping mid game. My mind went to Moncada and AV right away, mainly just due to their low key demeanors. But obviously those guys have been around, so wouldn’t be a new thing, though it sounds like the OKd clubhouse naps might be new. Possible Beni was that vet that mentioned as he’s a new guy and could have found it strange. Colas is my pick to click
August 9, 20232 yr Author 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Colas is my pick to click I just feel the “his energy is a 10…we need at an 8” means the dude is amped up at all times.
August 9, 20232 yr Author 17 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: You're assuming Hahn is telling the truth about it being a position player. He very well may be; but Middleton's comment specifically said 'pitcher in the bullpen' and since he's usually there all the time (since he isn't a starter) he should know. The two comments simply don't add up, somebody is lying. Why would Hahn lie about that though? TBH, I thought it was more embarrassing that he confirmed there is a player who gets to nap in the clubhouse.
August 9, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: You're assuming Hahn is telling the truth about it being a position player. He very well may be; but Middleton's comment specifically said 'pitcher in the bullpen' and since he's usually there all the time (since he isn't a starter) he should know. The two comments simply don't add up, somebody is lying. Could be both a position player that Hahn knows about, and also a pitcher that Hahn doesn't know about. Edited August 9, 20232 yr by South Side Fireworks Man
August 9, 20232 yr Author @wsd - Do you know who the Clubhouse Napper is? I guarantee the name is out there somewhere.
August 9, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: Could be both a position player that Hahn knows about, and also a pitcher that Hahn doesn't know about. This scenario crossed my mind earlier today.
August 9, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: @wsd - Do you know who the Clubhouse Napper is? I guarantee the name is out there somewhere. Idk if he comes here much. Just DM him on Twitter.
August 9, 20232 yr 25 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: You're assuming Hahn is telling the truth about it being a position player. He very well may be; but Middleton's comment specifically said 'pitcher in the bullpen' and since he's usually there all the time (since he isn't a starter) he should know. The two comments simply don't add up, somebody is lying.
August 9, 20232 yr 57 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: You're assuming Hahn is telling the truth about it being a position player. He very well may be; but Middleton's comment specifically said 'pitcher in the bullpen' and since he's usually there all the time (since he isn't a starter) he should know. The two comments simply don't add up, somebody is lying. Middleton actually said ""You have rookies sleeping in the bullpen during the game. " It's Carlos Perez. He's a rookie. OP rules them out because of only being a handful of games in May but that's not true. He was up most of July. Aside from that, he has traveled with the team quite a bit this year when non-rostered. It would make sense for him to be hanging out in the bullpen as a catcher when he's not on the roster. Edited August 9, 20232 yr by Buehrle>Wood
August 9, 20232 yr Rick Hahn (Position Player) and Kenyan Middleton (Bullpen Pitcher) are both telling the truth.
August 9, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Middleton actually said ""You have rookies sleeping in the bullpen during the game. " It's Carlos Perez. He's a rookie. OP rules them out because of only being a handful of games in May but that's not true. He was up most of July. Aside from that, he has traveled with the team quite a bit this year when non-rostered. It would make sense for him to be hanging out in the bullpen as a catcher when he's not on the roster. Good guess.
August 9, 20232 yr Author 44 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Middleton actually said ""You have rookies sleeping in the bullpen during the game. " It's Carlos Perez. He's a rookie. OP rules them out because of only being a handful of games in May but that's not true. He was up most of July. Aside from that, he has traveled with the team quite a bit this year when non-rostered. It would make sense for him to be hanging out in the bullpen as a catcher when he's not on the roster. Makes a lot of sense. I only ruled him out because I considered “earlier in the season” to mean June at the latest. And he was only with the Sox for like a week max. When he was traveling with the Sox? His minor league game log shows him with Charlotte almost all of April, May, & June.
August 9, 20232 yr Sox Clubhouse every night: Ironically, these 3 have a higher IQ than most of the Sox players and staff.
August 9, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Makes a lot of sense. I only ruled him out because I considered “earlier in the season” to mean June at the latest. And he was only with the Sox for like a week max. When he was traveling with the Sox? His minor league game log shows him with Charlotte almost all of April, May, & June. I know for sure before his July call-up he had already been with the team for a bit before being rostered. Pretty sure earlier in the year he was an emergency traveler too but could be wrong.
August 9, 20232 yr Considering Hahn is a lawyer by trade, he may be throwing you off with ‘position’ player. Pitcher is a position. So, technically, they both could be telling the truth.
August 9, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why would Hahn lie about that though? TBH, I thought it was more embarrassing that he confirmed there is a player who gets to nap in the clubhouse. Why would Hahn even mention it? He slammed Middleton for breaking the 'what goes on in the clubhouse rule' and then promptly did it himself by teasing this story and saying Middleton himself apologised for being unprofessional. Hahn would say anything to try an wriggle off the hook of his own incompetence. By teasing this story he just ensured it stays in the media and speculation longer than if he just said that he refuted Middleton's claims.
August 9, 20232 yr Not to get off topic but I remember many yrs ago when Harold Baines was bench coach I believe, he always looked like he was just about ready to nod off in the dugout lol
August 9, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, The Grinder said: Not to get off topic but I remember many yrs ago when Harold Baines was bench coach I believe, he always looked like he was just about ready to nod off in the dugout lol Harold woke up just in time at the World Series to say to Ozzie...."What about Blum?"....the rest is history.
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