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Fire Chris Getz

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Getz is promoted to double secret probation for one season.

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    It's time.   I don't agree with the end of the first sentence, agree with the rest of it. I won't be looking for another team if this happens. I will just back off baseball until J

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  • Why don’t you tell us why there was no alternative?  Or why you believe so strongly in everything he has done in house, that is not visible or even quantifiable?  Or why we should accept him as “bette

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25 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I don't even think another club can request an interview unless it's for a clear promotion, which means that teams would have to interview Getz for PBO. That's ludicrous. 

President/VP like Epstein when Hoyer took over with the Cubs as GM, or KW with Hahn.

 

The biggest success outside of Crochet might now be Colson, bit but he's going to have to stay over .240 to maintain that 800+ ops down the stretch.

Anything in the 750-775 range at the end of the season would be a success...especially if it's both Teel AND Colson together.

7 hours ago, nrockway said:

Why would other organizations be looking to hire a second year GM away from another team? He just got the job and has a lot of autonomy in a great city, why would he be looking for a new job?

Is there precedent for that? David Stearns, the wunderkind we might compare Getz to (new job, same year, young age) was with Milwaukee 8 years before the Mets hired him. Meanwhile, the Mets are underperforming and the Crew are better than ever.

This thread has been awful quiet for months and I assume it’s because fans have realized that Getz isn’t a moron. Are we still mad about the lack of an interview process?

we have hindsight now: who should have been hired in your view?

 

edit: it's an indictment on Craig Counsell too. I liked his batting stance, but is he any good at managing? The pocket pancake guy who doesn't speak spanish is having more success

No, nobody has come to the conclusion that Getz isn't a moron.  It's mostly indifference at this point.

9 hours ago, nrockway said:

Why would other organizations be looking to hire a second year GM away from another team? He just got the job and has a lot of autonomy in a great city, why would he be looking for a new job?

Is there precedent for that? David Stearns, the wunderkind we might compare Getz to (new job, same year, young age) was with Milwaukee 8 years before the Mets hired him. Meanwhile, the Mets are underperforming and the Crew are better than ever.

This thread has been awful quiet for months and I assume it’s because fans have realized that Getz isn’t a moron. Are we still mad about the lack of an interview process?

we have hindsight now: who should have been hired in your view?

 

edit: it's an indictment on Craig Counsell too. I liked his batting stance, but is he any good at managing? The pocket pancake guy who doesn't speak spanish is having more success

No one would and I don't think I've implied that.  Say like in 2030 if that were the case.

8 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

No one would and I don't think I've implied that.  Say like in 2030 if that were the case.

Your comment was vague. I took it to mean that if he was any good, other orgs would be sniffing around. My bad. 

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I also look at it this if he is successful (not by our lowly standard yardstick) under Reinsdorf, I think some organizations would be after him.  Especially the cheap ass ones. 

If Getz builds a winner with a slashed budget, and basically rebuilding the entire scouting, development and procurement apparati from the ground up - on the fly, half of the league would be throwing PBO offers at him after his first high profile finish. 

Dombrowski and Friedman both had success in weird, cheap organizations, and when they hit the open market, they were spoiled for choice. 

15 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Your comment was vague. I took it to mean that if he was any good, other orgs would be sniffing around. My bad. 

If Getz builds a winner with a slashed budget, and basically rebuilding the entire scouting, development and procurement apparati from the ground up - on the fly, half of the league would be throwing PBO offers at him after his first high profile finish. 

Dombrowski and Friedman both had success in weird, cheap organizations, and when they hit the open market, they were spoiled for choice. 

Did you just compare two of the best GMs of our generation to...Chris Getz?

35 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Did you just compare two of the best GMs of our generation to...Chris Getz?

That IF is doing some HEAVY lifting, much like IF Southsider wins the powerball tonight, he will not go to work tomorrow.

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Did you just compare two of the best GMs of our generation to...Chris Getz?

Did you just make an insane leap in logic that had nothing to do with the discussion to dunk on a point nobody made?

39 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

That IF is doing some HEAVY lifting, much like IF Southsider wins the powerball tonight, he will not go to work tomorrow.

Yeah, that's kind of how the word "if" works. 

11 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Yeah, that's kind of how the word "if" works. 

Some If's work harder than others.  Yours is doing Atlas immitations.

Martin Perez is back.  Brilliance.  Take another bow, Getz.  

7 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Martin Perez is back.  Brilliance.  Take another bow, Getz.  

I guess at least he can eat innings.  Rojas just wastes plate appearances.

24 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Martin Perez is back.  Brilliance.  Take another bow, Getz.  

His signing was a decent move.  There was always going to be a lot of innings to fill.  The idea that the pitching was too full was always absurd.  In his case it just sucked that he broke right away.

25 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

His signing was a decent move.  There was always going to be a lot of innings to fill.  The idea that the pitching was too full was always absurd.  In his case it just sucked that he broke right away.

That was then.  His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible.

This is now.  Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed.   
He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at.  

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8 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

That was then.  His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible.

This is now.  Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed.   
He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at.  

The Sox are struggling to fill innings

18 minutes ago, fathom said:

The Sox are struggling to fill innings

Plenty of pitchers to audition.  Perez should have been released when he came off the injured list.      
Also have OFs to audition, but Getz doesn't care.  Taylor remains.
Rojas can't hit, can't field, can't run (or he lollygags on the bases or both).  

6 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Plenty of pitchers to audition.  Perez should have been released when he came off the injured list.      
Also have OFs to audition, but Getz doesn't care.  Taylor remains.
Rojas can't hit, can't field, can't run (or he lollygags on the bases or both).  

I agree that they would need the help if Civale was traded. He wasn't.

55 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

That was then.  His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible.

This is now.  Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed.   
He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at.  

Plenty of pitchers?  In what world?

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Plenty of pitchers?  In what world?

Agreed. The guys here like Burke, Smith, Martin will throw more innings than they ever have in a season.

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

Agreed. The guys here like Burke, Smith, Martin will throw more innings than they ever have in a season.

And some are already struggling with the load.  Cannon is already down.  Smith had a pretty significant fall off before his injury break.  I expect it to only get worse too.

10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

And some are already struggling with the load.  Cannon is already down.  Smith had a pretty significant fall off before his injury break.  I expect it to only get worse too.

It can get worse??

2 minutes ago, wegner said:

It can get worse??

Look at who the depth is beyond guys like Smith, Martin, Burke, et al.

 

2 hours ago, GreenSox said:

That was then.  His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible.

This is now.  Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed.   
He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at.  

But not healthy starting pitchers...or anyone not named Schultz/Smith, who clearly are being "protected" right now from further damage.

5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Look at who the depth is beyond guys like Smith, Martin, Burke, et al.

 

I seem to remember some excitement when they signed et al at the last international signing period or was that in 2023?

23 hours ago, nrockway said:

why?

Getz so far is doing a fine job especially considering the financial constraints.

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