Quin Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Getz is promoted to double secret probation for one season. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 25 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't even think another club can request an interview unless it's for a clear promotion, which means that teams would have to interview Getz for PBO. That's ludicrous. President/VP like Epstein when Hoyer took over with the Cubs as GM, or KW with Hahn. The biggest success outside of Crochet might now be Colson, bit but he's going to have to stay over .240 to maintain that 800+ ops down the stretch. Anything in the 750-775 range at the end of the season would be a success...especially if it's both Teel AND Colson together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 7 hours ago, nrockway said: Why would other organizations be looking to hire a second year GM away from another team? He just got the job and has a lot of autonomy in a great city, why would he be looking for a new job? Is there precedent for that? David Stearns, the wunderkind we might compare Getz to (new job, same year, young age) was with Milwaukee 8 years before the Mets hired him. Meanwhile, the Mets are underperforming and the Crew are better than ever. This thread has been awful quiet for months and I assume it’s because fans have realized that Getz isn’t a moron. Are we still mad about the lack of an interview process? we have hindsight now: who should have been hired in your view? edit: it's an indictment on Craig Counsell too. I liked his batting stance, but is he any good at managing? The pocket pancake guy who doesn't speak spanish is having more success No, nobody has come to the conclusion that Getz isn't a moron. It's mostly indifference at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 9 hours ago, nrockway said: Why would other organizations be looking to hire a second year GM away from another team? He just got the job and has a lot of autonomy in a great city, why would he be looking for a new job? Is there precedent for that? David Stearns, the wunderkind we might compare Getz to (new job, same year, young age) was with Milwaukee 8 years before the Mets hired him. Meanwhile, the Mets are underperforming and the Crew are better than ever. This thread has been awful quiet for months and I assume it’s because fans have realized that Getz isn’t a moron. Are we still mad about the lack of an interview process? we have hindsight now: who should have been hired in your view? edit: it's an indictment on Craig Counsell too. I liked his batting stance, but is he any good at managing? The pocket pancake guy who doesn't speak spanish is having more success No one would and I don't think I've implied that. Say like in 2030 if that were the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 8 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: No one would and I don't think I've implied that. Say like in 2030 if that were the case. Your comment was vague. I took it to mean that if he was any good, other orgs would be sniffing around. My bad. Quote I also look at it this if he is successful (not by our lowly standard yardstick) under Reinsdorf, I think some organizations would be after him. Especially the cheap ass ones. If Getz builds a winner with a slashed budget, and basically rebuilding the entire scouting, development and procurement apparati from the ground up - on the fly, half of the league would be throwing PBO offers at him after his first high profile finish. Dombrowski and Friedman both had success in weird, cheap organizations, and when they hit the open market, they were spoiled for choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 15 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Your comment was vague. I took it to mean that if he was any good, other orgs would be sniffing around. My bad. If Getz builds a winner with a slashed budget, and basically rebuilding the entire scouting, development and procurement apparati from the ground up - on the fly, half of the league would be throwing PBO offers at him after his first high profile finish. Dombrowski and Friedman both had success in weird, cheap organizations, and when they hit the open market, they were spoiled for choice. Did you just compare two of the best GMs of our generation to...Chris Getz? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 35 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Did you just compare two of the best GMs of our generation to...Chris Getz? That IF is doing some HEAVY lifting, much like IF Southsider wins the powerball tonight, he will not go to work tomorrow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: Did you just compare two of the best GMs of our generation to...Chris Getz? Did you just make an insane leap in logic that had nothing to do with the discussion to dunk on a point nobody made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 39 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That IF is doing some HEAVY lifting, much like IF Southsider wins the powerball tonight, he will not go to work tomorrow. Yeah, that's kind of how the word "if" works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Yeah, that's kind of how the word "if" works. Some If's work harder than others. Yours is doing Atlas immitations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Martin Perez is back. Brilliance. Take another bow, Getz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 7 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Martin Perez is back. Brilliance. Take another bow, Getz. I guess at least he can eat innings. Rojas just wastes plate appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 24 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Martin Perez is back. Brilliance. Take another bow, Getz. His signing was a decent move. There was always going to be a lot of innings to fill. The idea that the pitching was too full was always absurd. In his case it just sucked that he broke right away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) 25 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: His signing was a decent move. There was always going to be a lot of innings to fill. The idea that the pitching was too full was always absurd. In his case it just sucked that he broke right away. That was then. His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible. This is now. Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed. He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at. Edited August 13 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 8 minutes ago, GreenSox said: That was then. His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible. This is now. Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed. He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at. The Sox are struggling to fill innings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 18 minutes ago, fathom said: The Sox are struggling to fill innings Plenty of pitchers to audition. Perez should have been released when he came off the injured list. Also have OFs to audition, but Getz doesn't care. Taylor remains. Rojas can't hit, can't field, can't run (or he lollygags on the bases or both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 6 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Plenty of pitchers to audition. Perez should have been released when he came off the injured list. Also have OFs to audition, but Getz doesn't care. Taylor remains. Rojas can't hit, can't field, can't run (or he lollygags on the bases or both). I agree that they would need the help if Civale was traded. He wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 55 minutes ago, GreenSox said: That was then. His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible. This is now. Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed. He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at. Plenty of pitchers? In what world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Plenty of pitchers? In what world? Agreed. The guys here like Burke, Smith, Martin will throw more innings than they ever have in a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: Agreed. The guys here like Burke, Smith, Martin will throw more innings than they ever have in a season. And some are already struggling with the load. Cannon is already down. Smith had a pretty significant fall off before his injury break. I expect it to only get worse too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: And some are already struggling with the load. Cannon is already down. Smith had a pretty significant fall off before his injury break. I expect it to only get worse too. It can get worse?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, wegner said: It can get worse?? Look at who the depth is beyond guys like Smith, Martin, Burke, et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: That was then. His job was to eat innings as efficiently as possible so as to be traded for as much as possible. This is now. Plenty of pitchers and the deadline has passed. He is crowding out players that the Sox need to look at. But not healthy starting pitchers...or anyone not named Schultz/Smith, who clearly are being "protected" right now from further damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Look at who the depth is beyond guys like Smith, Martin, Burke, et al. I seem to remember some excitement when they signed et al at the last international signing period or was that in 2023? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 23 hours ago, nrockway said: why? Getz so far is doing a fine job especially considering the financial constraints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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