3 minutes ago, Snopek said:

GMs cannot approach their job with the assumption that there will be no season next year.

I agree with that. And as someone who wanted to at least see what Castillo could do, I think the trade is a failure. Doyle was a failure as well.

With that stated, Southsider has a point. I don’t think Getz was being overly aggressive. I think he made a lot of calls and thought he was shopping at Aldi, but found himself in the aisles of Shop N Save

5 minutes ago, nitetrain8601 said:

I agree with that. And as someone who wanted to at least see what Castillo could do, I think the trade is a failure. Doyle was a failure as well.

With that stated, Southsider has a point. I don’t think Getz was being overly aggressive. I think he made a lot of calls and thought he was shopping at Aldi, but found himself in the aisles of Shop N Save

Dude was at the yard sale in the alley, and bought himself a fake antique along with his bargains.

Speaking of keeping Castillo around who now isn't even pitching:

From the MLB.com site:

The Phillies have claimed right-handed pitcher José Urquidy off waivers from the Chicago White Sox. To make room on the 40-man roster, right-handed pitcher Caleb Kilian was transferred to the 60-day injured list. Phillies President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski made the announcement.

Urquidy, 31, has appeared in 11 games this season between the Pittsburgh Pirates and White Sox. He made one start on Aug. 24 against the Texas Rangers, however his last three appearances have all come in relief. On Aug. 30 against the Twins in Minnesota, he allowed one run over 5.0 innings. On Sept. 3 in Houston against the Astros, he tossed 1.0 scoreless inning. And, on Sept. 8 against the Pirates, he allowed two runs over 4.0 innings. Combined, he has a 2.70 ERA over his last three appearances (3 ER, 10.0 IP).

Braves, Cubs, and Guardians seem to have won the trade deadline moves. An obvious swing and miss for the Sox.

26 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Speaking of keeping Castillo around who now isn't even pitching:

From the MLB.com site:

The Phillies have claimed right-handed pitcher José Urquidy off waivers from the Chicago White Sox. To make room on the 40-man roster, right-handed pitcher Caleb Kilian was transferred to the 60-day injured list. Phillies President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski made the announcement.

Urquidy, 31, has appeared in 11 games this season between the Pittsburgh Pirates and White Sox. He made one start on Aug. 24 against the Texas Rangers, however his last three appearances have all come in relief. On Aug. 30 against the Twins in Minnesota, he allowed one run over 5.0 innings. On Sept. 3 in Houston against the Astros, he tossed 1.0 scoreless inning. And, on Sept. 8 against the Pirates, he allowed two runs over 4.0 innings. Combined, he has a 2.70 ERA over his last three appearances (3 ER, 10.0 IP).

Urgiggity gone…

Do you fire him if the team didn't make any trades at the deadline?

24 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Braves, Cubs, and Guardians seem to have won the trade deadline moves. An obvious swing and miss for the Sox.

A bonus of having better farm systems.

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

Braves, Cubs, and Guardians seem to have won the trade deadline moves. An obvious swing and miss for the Sox.

The Rays did well too.

21 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

A bonus of having better farm systems.

The Padres had the 30th rated farm system and still managed to improve their team...ofc part of that was Tatis and Machado playing much better.

Now one GB the vaunted Cubs.

Could have easily sold off Miller King Morejon and even Salas.

White Sox were roughly around #13-16 system.

33 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Do you fire him if the team didn't make any trades at the deadline?

Nope.

The AL Central has been hiding or let's just say masking the true weaknesses of those five teams for most of the season.

But now the pen is hiring after getting overused all season long.

Three players look beyond help until the offseason.

And it still ALMOST worked if Grant Taylor executed a better pitch vs. Rocchio.

One thing is 100% true, Castillo and Brazoban actively hurt the team's chances of holding things together and dragging over the finish line into postseason play.

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Crazy that Jake McCarthy (yes Colorado helps!) is 25th in mlb ops.

Vargas 23rd .826

MurakamiTatis Jr. 30th .816

Antonacci 64th

Meidroth 73rd

Peters not qualified, nor Grichuk ofc

Fire this incompetent, clueless faux GM into the sun. There are 100,000 people in Chicago and virtually everyone on this board that would do a better job than Getz. We all knew we needed SP at the deadline. He got a hasbeen in Castillo and absolutely no help. I don't care what constraints JR put on him, he crushed any chance of this being a playoff season. I'm out.

Sad that this game and Antonacci misread/Pham might be only memories going into off season.

And now the Peters injury

But give AJ Hinch credit for not allowing his team to mail it in down 8-2

second time this week couldn't watch any longer and went out walking to escape watching the I'm pending disaster occur live

I’d like to see a review of the worst trade deadlines in MLB history, because Getzie’s has to up there.

Soxtalk is going to burn tonight.

You can't build your franchise's foundation around two players leading the majors in K rate unless they're going to slug 900+ like a Schwarber.

You also can't have one of the worst trade deadlines in recent history.

Doyle might still be okay, but Castillo put pressure on the entire pitching staff until it crumbled this week.

And now they have pretty much zero financial flexibility (thanks to Castillo) in a FA market where all the the Top Ten guys have underachieved except for Skubal and King.

26 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’d like to see a review of the worst trade deadlines in MLB history, because Getzie’s has to up there.

Castillo is as bad of a deadline deal as I can remember

45 minutes ago, fathom said:

Castillo is as bad of a deadline deal as I can remember

And that's even before we see if Boston Smith can get any success in the majors

48 minutes ago, fathom said:

Castillo is as bad of a deadline deal as I can remember

From the big acquisition to unpitchable in six weeks is impressive.

Even if he had put up his Seattle numbers he could have burned some innings. Instead he hides in the dugout for millions of dollars.

1 hour ago, PitchatRisktoZisk said:

Fire this incompetent, clueless faux GM into the sun. There are 100,000 people in Chicago and virtually everyone on this board that would do a better job than Getz. We all knew we needed SP at the deadline. He got a hasbeen in Castillo and absolutely no help. I don't care what constraints JR put on him, he crushed any chance of this being a playoff season. I'm out.

This organization has definitely take some big steps forward this year after the last three seasons. But, at the end of the day, it's still a 2nd rate organization where people who have questionable qualifications get put into key leadership positions. Unfortunately, this isn't going to change until at least when Jerry Reinsdorf is no longer in control of this franchise.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

From the big acquisition to unpitchable in six weeks is impressive.

Even if he had put up his Seattle numbers he could have burned some innings. Instead he hides in the dugout for millions of dollars.

Given how his season went in Seattle you'd think they would have known something was badly wrong.

Getz was around for James Shields, you'd think he'd remember how that went based on what Shields was doing that year for San Diego.

1 minute ago, 77 Hitmen said:

This organization has definitely take some big steps forward this year after the last three seasons. But, at the end of the day, it's still a 2nd rate organization where people who have questionable qualifications get put into key leadership positions. Unfortunately, this isn't going to change until at least when Jerry Reinsdorf is no longer in control of this franchise.

Amen.

4 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

And that's even before we see if Boston Smith can get any success in the majors

I mean Jerry finally took the training wheels off of the payroll and Chris instantly wrapped his bike around a tree, and then got off of the bike and fell off of a cliff with the Castillo deal.

I have officially decided that Getz should be fired. His deadline reeks of either stupidity or arrogance and either way it should not be tolerated. How the f*** did we blow a 6 run lead tonight and somehow use 7 pitchers, none of whom were deadline additions. Honestly, it speaks volume to how bad of a job Getz did at the deadline. Chris should be charged with negligence for failing us so epically these last two months.

16 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I have officially decided that Getz should be fired. His deadline reeks of either stupidity or arrogance and either way it should not be tolerated. How the f*** did we blow a 6 run lead tonight and somehow use 7 pitchers, none of whom were deadline additions. Honestly, it speaks volume to how bad of a job Getz did at the deadline. Chris should be charged with negligence for failing us so epically these last two months.

the level of arrogance/overconfidence is unbelievable, he also sounds like he's responding to a ransom letter every damn time he speaks to the media, one of these days he's just gonna run off screaming mid-sentence