4 hours ago, DirtySox said:

I want.

 

Looks like a ten year old threw that pitch.

38 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Looks like a ten year old threw that pitch.

Every time I see Nick Maton he reminds me of a high school 2B

I seem to remember when we drafted James Beard comments on how weak his competition was with high school baseball in Alabama. That would make me apprehensive on putting much stock in Hall’s numbers. 

3 hours ago, almagest said:

I know you can never have enough pitching, and the Sox are really good at developing lefties, but I am so worried about the offensive future of this organization. Maybe drafting for need isn't the way to go, but another starting pitcher at 1-10 if there are any near equivalent offensive prospects there would be a mistake.

I agree .  And  that's  how I saw it last year; although the 3 much-discussed players  (Caglianone, Wetherholt, Griffin) were there when the Sox picked, they still went pitcher.

I don't know if they are better at drafting pitching than hitting, but under Shirley they have certainly used far more top-of-the-draft resources on pitching than hitting.  

 

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

Looks like a ten year old threw that pitch.

I haven't played baseball in decades and even my eyes lit up seeing that meatball

37 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

I agree .  And  that's  how I saw it last year; although the 3 much-discussed players  (Caglianone, Wetherholt, Griffin) were there when the Sox picked, they still went pitcher.

I don't know if they are better at drafting pitching than hitting, but under Shirley they have certainly used far more top-of-the-draft resources on pitching than hitting.  

 

I like Smith, but Caglianone is looking really good

2 hours ago, almagest said:

I like Smith, but Caglianone is looking really good

Looks good and he's moving quickly. He and Witt in the same lineup are gonna provide KC with fireworks for some years.

3 hours ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

Looks good and he's moving quickly. He and Witt in the same lineup are gonna provide KC with fireworks for some years.

I’m more concerned about Hagen’s control.

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by fathom

34 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

Looks good and he's moving quickly. He and Witt in the same lineup are gonna provide KC with fireworks for some years.

And Pasquantino if he can stay healthy...

13 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’m more concerned about Hagen’a control.

I feel like that was only his most recent start. Has he had more control problems than that?

19 minutes ago, almagest said:

I feel like that was only his most recent start. Has he had more control problems than that?

Yes, it wasn’t good in ST and dangerous actually had moved him down because of the control issues.

2 hours ago, fathom said:

I’m more concerned about Hagen’a control.

And he didn't go past 5 or 6 innings very often in college.  
In 2023 they draft low-ceiling Gonzalez  and in 2024 they pass on high ceiling Cags.  
Well, I think the way they draft is weird and sort of arrogant (and they don't have the results to support arrogance).  
 

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by GreenSox

32 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

And he didn't go past 5 or 6 innings very often in college.  
In 2023 they draft low-ceiling Gonzalez  and in 2024 they pass on high ceiling Cags.  
Well, I think the way they draft is weird and sort of arrogant (and they don't have the results to support arrogance).  
 

Hope this doesn't turn into another Carson Fulmer, who seemingly peaked in college...or all the pressure will fall on Taylor and Schultz.

Yes it early.

Maybe I am inherently biased against anyone whose hair reminds of Clevinger's lol.

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by caulfield12

In Hagen’s first start it took him a couple innings to find his release point and once he did he was quite literally unhittable. He didn’t get a chance this past weekend because he hit his inning pitch limit, but feasibly could have done the same. 
If the issue is being more consistent with his mechanics and release point - or at least finding it earlier in the game - that’s what the minors are for. 

15 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Hope this doesn't turn into another Carson Fulmer, who seemingly peaked in college...or all the pressure will fall on Taylor and Schultz.

Yes it early.

Maybe I am inherently biased against anyone whose hair reminds of Clevinger's lol.

HOLY FUCKING s%*# 

On 4/14/2025 at 3:53 PM, Lyle Moooton said:

I seem to remember when we drafted James Beard comments on how weak his competition was with high school baseball in Alabama. That would make me apprehensive on putting much stock in Hall’s numbers. 

Beard was from Mississippi where there was concern about his competition.  Think Alabama is better and Hewitt-Trussville is 7A classification.  Not sure what summer circuits etc the kid has appeared at for further evaluation.

Law's top 50 draft eligible players

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6278346/2025/04/15/2025-top-50-mlb-draft-rankings-keith-law/?source=athletic_pulsenewsletter&campaign=13188419&userId=6062851

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Law's top 50 draft eligible players

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6278346/2025/04/15/2025-top-50-mlb-draft-rankings-keith-law/?source=athletic_pulsenewsletter&campaign=13188419&userId=6062851

Top 15 posted below.

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We’re now past the midpoint of the college baseball regular season, when just about every high school prospect of note has begun his spring season as well, making it a good time to update the rankings of the best players in this year’s draft class. As I said in the first ranking in March, this is a deep class, but it’s weaker than ever at the very top, rivaling the 2016 draft for the worst top echelon of any draft I’ve ever covered. That’s going to mean we see a lot of well-under-slot deals this year, maybe right at the very first pick, to make up for the fact that none of these players would have gone first or second in a typical year, probably not even in the top five picks in the loaded 2023 class.

There is real depth in this draft, though: There’s a huge group of high school shortstops, many of whom project to stay there for the long term, along with a strong set of college left-handed starters and at least an average group of hard-hitting college outfielders. The college catching crop isn’t bad, either, although the high school group is almost nonexistent; the two best ones are probably going to end up in the outfield. It’s a good year to pick later in the first round, and still a good year to have an extra pick or two.

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1.) Ethan Holliday

2.) Liam Doyle

3.) Jamie Arnold

4.) Aiva Arquette

5.) Marek Houston

6.) Gavin Kilen

7.) Eli Willits

8.) Kade Anderson

9.) Jojo Parker

10.) Billy Carlson

11.) Ike Irish

12.) Brendan Summerhill

13.) Dean Curley

14.) Kyson Witherspoon

15.) Gavin Fien

 

Edited April 16, 2025Apr 16 by DirtySox

3 hours ago, BamaDoc said:

Beard was from Mississippi where there was concern about his competition.  Think Alabama is better and Hewitt-Trussville is 7A classification.  Not sure what summer circuits etc the kid has appeared at for further evaluation.

Good call you’re right

2 hours ago, DirtySox said:

Top 15 posted below.

 

Sounds like it's not so bad to be forced to drop to 10 this year, besides losing the extra draft pool $. Hopefully next year is much stronger at the top, when the Sox are basically guaranteed a top 3 pick.

On 4/14/2025 at 10:17 PM, caulfield12 said:

Hope this doesn't turn into another Carson Fulmer, who seemingly peaked in college...or all the pressure will fall on Taylor and Schultz.

Yes it early.

Maybe I am inherently biased against anyone whose hair reminds of Clevinger's lol.

Fulmer had a rushed, jerky delivery. It was an obvious even to an amateur watcher like me.  He also induced a lot of bad chase in college that wasn't going to happen against pro hitters.  

It wouldn't surprise me though if Smith was a JR pick.    Our insiders/gurus posted many times pre-draft that they'd be surprised if the Sox took a pitcher; and yet, they did.

The guys ranked 12-15 on Law's list look interesting to me - get one on an underslot.

Edited April 16, 2025Apr 16 by GreenSox

 

Is 1-10 too rich for Gamble? Probably. But I like him. Maybe a good overslot at 2-1?

He could be if they get him at the right number.  There could be a lot of deals cut in the top 10.