Penix replacing Cousins. I was a huge fan of his before the draft, and really believe the national title game squashed his value just a little bit. Enough to knock him out of the Top 3 slot. 

We all know damn well if the Chicago Bears were in that situation, there’s no way they would bench a quarterback they just signed to a huge off-season deal. Regardless of who was waiting in the wings, or how he was performing.

6 minutes ago, Flash Tizzle said:

Penix replacing Cousins. I was a huge fan of his before the draft, and really believe the national title game squashed his value just a little bit. Enough to knock him out of the Top 3 slot. 

I think his age and knees knocked him out.  It was an extremely strange scenario that the Falcons put themselves in, and the base salary in the next 3 seasons is 27M/35M/35M, and cap hits are 40M/57M/57M.   Money that could have been used to build around Penix if you really believed in him

 

8 minutes ago, Flash Tizzle said:

We all know damn well if the Chicago Bears were in that situation, there’s no way they would bench a quarterback they just signed to a huge off-season deal. Regardless of who was waiting in the wings, or how he was performing.

They did that with Dalton and Glennon

30 minutes ago, Flash Tizzle said:

Penix replacing Cousins. I was a huge fan of his before the draft, and really believe the national title game squashed his value just a little bit. Enough to knock him out of the Top 3 slot. 

Just instantly the dumbest set of moves this off season.

5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Just instantly the dumbest set of moves this off season.

If you're going to give that much money to a Qb, you have to use that draft spot to get a playmaker somewhere on the field. 

6 hours ago, Flash Tizzle said:

Penix replacing Cousins. I was a huge fan of his before the draft, and really believe the national title game squashed his value just a little bit. Enough to knock him out of the Top 3 slot. 

I think he's going to be real good and I still think there is a benefit to letting guys sit a bit and watch before you jump in.  

The Bears really are going to do the most predictable thing ever. They'll keep Poles, hire a new HC. Season won't go the way they want in 2025, Poles will basically have to be fired. Now a new GM is coming in with a coach he didn't hire. 

And the cycle continues, and continues, and continues. And George will sit in the owners box and wonder why things aren't working. 

2 hours ago, Tony said:

The Bears really are going to do the most predictable thing ever. They'll keep Poles, hire a new HC. Season won't go the way they want in 2025, Poles will basically have to be fired. Now a new GM is coming in with a coach he didn't hire. 

And the cycle continues, and continues, and continues. And George will sit in the owners box and wonder why things aren't working. 

insanity

14 hours ago, Tony said:

The Bears really are going to do the most predictable thing ever. They'll keep Poles, hire a new HC. Season won't go the way they want in 2025, Poles will basically have to be fired. Now a new GM is coming in with a coach he didn't hire. 

And the cycle continues, and continues, and continues. And George will sit in the owners box and wonder why things aren't working. 

Poles should consider stepping down as the GM. There is a very narrow path to success for him. He has to oversee all of the following in one season: successfully pick the next HC (and its accompanying staff), draft/sign through FA a collection of talent who will bring immediate success, take a huge step forward with Williams’ development, all the while competing in the toughest division in football. Impossible. Especially when he hasn’t checked any of those requirements to this point! Why would anyone believe he could somehow make it work? 

A important question for me is try to decide is, what is our metric for deciding if Poles was successful or not? Is it as black and white as, playoffs or he’s fired? What about if the Bears finished 9-8 but missed out on a final playoff spot? Or, a scenario where Caleb and the offense looks great overall but the defense continues they slide and they finish below .500? 

I wouldn’t be surprised if both Johnson and Vrabel did not select the Bears. The Jets will entice Vrabel with a voice in the GM search. Even with their meddling owner and Rodgers drama, having your voice heard is a powerful selling point. There’s a possibility the Cowboys also pivot towards him. With Johnson, the Jags will offer him more roster control than he would get here. Also, are you sitting across the sidelines watching this disaster of a team thinking you can fix it? Then whatever relationship you have with Poles, you have to deal with another GM the following season.

The easiest path forward for the Bears starts with firing Poles. Then, we immediately become a more attractive option for all of these coaches.

21 minutes ago, Flash Tizzle said:

Poles should consider stepping down as the GM. There is a very narrow path to success for him. He has to oversee all of the following in one season: successfully pick the next HC (and its accompanying staff), draft/sign through FA a collection of talent who will bring immediate success, take a huge step forward with Williams’ development, all the while competing in the toughest division in football. Impossible. Especially when he hasn’t checked any of those requirements to this point! Why would anyone believe he could somehow make it work? 

A important question for me is try to decide is, what is our metric for deciding if Poles was successful or not? Is it as black and white as, playoffs or he’s fired? What about if the Bears finished 9-8 but missed out on a final playoff spot? Or, a scenario where Caleb and the offense looks great overall but the defense continues they slide and they finish below .500? 

I wouldn’t be surprised if both Johnson and Vrabel did not select the Bears. The Jets will entice Vrabel with a voice in the GM search. Even with their meddling owner and Rodgers drama, having your voice heard is a powerful selling point. There’s a possibility the Cowboys also pivot towards him. With Johnson, the Jags will offer him more roster control than he would get here. Also, are you sitting across the sidelines watching this disaster of a team thinking you can fix it? Then whatever relationship you have with Poles, you have to deal with another GM the following season.

The easiest path forward for the Bears starts with firing Poles. Then, we immediately become a more attractive option for all of these coaches.

Obviously, I totally agree. It seems incredibly simple, yet they'll find a way to botch it. 

The only question you really need to ask yourself if your Kevin Warren or George, is this: "If we bring Ryan back, and 2025 looks like 2024, are we firing Ryan?" If the answer even remotely resembles "yes" then you can't let him make the hire for the next HC of the team. If 2025 is his make or break season for you, why are you giving him that much decision making that will significantly impact your future, including when he's already left the building. On top of the fact you've done this now basically the last decade with HC/GM/QB all being on different timelines. 

It's so black and white, but they'll once again find a way to get stuck in the mud. 

On 12/17/2024 at 1:16 PM, MexSoxFan#1 said:

Meh, he also said that Mark Sanchez would be better than Aaron Rodgers.

Have fun watching the Bears who are run almost as poorly as the Sox. Enough of Chicago teams. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-owner-woody-johnson-reportedly-nixed-jerry-jeudy-trade-due-to-madden-rating-allows-teen-sons-to-influence-decisions-144949206.html

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42892243/los-angeles-chargers-coach-jim-harbaugh-san-diego-toreros-first-job-2004  

Solid story about Harbaugh's first three years back in college football over 20 years ago, with the University of San Diego Toreros

Edited December 20, 20241 yr by caulfield12

"The slimmed-down package does include federal funds to rebuild Baltimore’s collapsed Key Bridge, but dropped a separate land transfer that could have paved the way for a new Washington Commanders football stadium."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/government-shutdown-risk-trumps-demands-162543907.html

Edited December 20, 20241 yr by caulfield12

Anybody who thinks the NFL is fixed is wrong. Why would they let Mahomes and the Chiefs win it every year if it were fixed? Is Andy Reid the greatest coach of all time? In a day and age of parity the Chiefs win it every single year.

I have no rational for this - but I see the Bears breaking their losing streak today. 4 TD game for Caleb! 

1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said:

I have no rational for this - but I see the Bears breaking their losing streak today. 4 TD game for Caleb! 

Hell if they score any first half points and manage more than one third down conversion in the same drive I’ll be happy. 

I could see it as a 20-17 type of game. It’s cold outside, and as I recall Goff plays much worse in outdoor stadiums.

Bears be Baresing

Hiring Ben Johnson should be the easiest decision ever made.

Bears

Can't 

Stop

This 

Offense

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Hiring Ben Johnson should be the easiest decision ever made.

Which is why they won't...

Might sound sacrilegious with this take but I hope Detroit wins it all, way better than either Green Bay or Minnesota.

Thomas Brown with some head scratching 4th down decisions.