8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I wonder how many years of who cares trades  and signings we have left.

 

6 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

He was the 229th pick. Most of those picks have glaring issues. Come on. 

Oh, sure. But the Sox drafted him for some reason and to trade him for an old AAA reliever is silly.

Especially cause a good front office clearly thinks they're making the better move. 

7 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

He was the 229th pick. Most of those picks have glaring issues. Come on. 

And the qualm is trading young for old, not whether a pick has issues.

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Stop trading younger players for old, lefty relievers 

Dude maybe he can be ok and then we can flip him at the deadline for an Aaron Combs type guy!

 

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Last year they traded 32 year old left handed reliever Tanner Banks for a player better than Aaron Combs.  

Banks had some history of success in three straight seasons with the Sox before he was traded.  Gilbert hasn’t been good since his rookie season in 2021.

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4 minutes ago, T R U said:

Dude maybe he can be ok and then we can flip him at the deadline for an Aaron Combs type guy!

 

Or maybe a prospect like Yhoiker Fajardo?

5 minutes ago, Quin said:

Or maybe a prospect like Yhoiker Fajardo?

Yeah, it would be nice to have guys like that in the system. 
 

Apparently the new market inefficiency the Sox have found is old and inexperienced relievers.  So much better than experienced relievers. 

7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Apparently the new market inefficiency the Sox have found is old and inexperienced relievers.  So much better than experienced relievers. 

I think you mean 'So much cheaper than experienced relievers'.

4 minutes ago, Chimpton said:

I think you mean 'So much cheaper than experienced relievers'.

Implied, but yeah.

A 23-year-old 8th round, right-handed reliever that can’t throw strikes. I wonder why you’d select a guy like that to begin with. Who cares. This is only annoying because there are already 1000 pitchers on the team. 

23 minutes ago, Quin said:

Oh, sure. But the Sox drafted him for some reason and to trade him for an old AAA reliever is silly.

Especially cause a good front office clearly thinks they're making the better move. 

Philadelphia put Gilbert through waivers. The White Sox claimed him. Instead of pulling him back, the Phillies took a low-A ball bullpen arm in trade. I'm not sure what is silly about picking up a seasoned arm that could be a solid bullpen piece this season rather than developing a college arm for 3 years, taken in what has always been referred to as a weak draft. 

5% of 8th round picks make an MLB roster. Excellent use of value from Getz. 

SoxTalk: There are absolutely ZERO prospects in our system. And what does it matter?!? We couldn't even develop them if we had them. 

Also SoxTalk: OMFG!! How could we trade a guy I didn't even know existed until this moment?!? He's clearly a Hall-of-Famer!!

Thanks for the laugh, everyone. 

Like a lot of the guys they've brought in, he's throws a cutter. That seems to be a Bannister trademark. I think this is all about the Sox trying to create value out of essentially fringe players, and flip at the deadline like Tanner Banks last season. Low-risk move. You can always find additional Combs profile-players all across the minors and during the draft - he wasn't even in the top 30.

Deals like this one which keep happening also tells me that Getz has zero faith in player development still.

 

SoxMachine's take:

https://soxmachine.com/2025/01/white-sox-continue-amassing-fringe-relievers-with-trade-for-tyler-gilbert/

39 minutes ago, nrockway said:

A 23-year-old 8th round, right-handed reliever that can’t throw strikes. I wonder why you’d select a guy like that to begin with. Who cares. This is only annoying because there are already 1000 pitchers on the team. 

I don't think anyone is gnashing their teeth over losing an 8th round pick, its the trading a 23 year old for a 31 year old who doesn't bring back experience or leadership or any tangible contribution for the use of a 40 man spot. It's just strange.

3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

I don't think anyone is gnashing their teeth over losing an 8th round pick, its the trading a 23 year old for a 31 year old who doesn't bring back experience or leadership or any tangible contribution for the use of a 40 man spot. It's just strange.

Stop making sense or you’ll summon westeddy to derail the thread. 

55 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Philadelphia put Gilbert through waivers. The White Sox claimed him. Instead of pulling him back, the Phillies took a low-A ball bullpen arm in trade. I'm not sure what is silly about picking up a seasoned arm that could be a solid bullpen piece this season rather than developing a college arm for 3 years, taken in what has always been referred to as a weak draft. 

Cause "seasoned" is the best compliment you can give a bad, old reliever and Getz's entire FO revamp has been stressing his ability to develop guys internally?

4 minutes ago, Quin said:

Cause "seasoned" is the best compliment you can give a bad, old reliever and Getz's entire FO revamp has been stressing his ability to develop guys internally?

I'd rather keep the low-A bullpen arm honestly, even if he never amounts to anything. Which, knowing the GM's track record for development, seems pretty likely.

1 hour ago, TaylorStSox said:

5% of 8th round picks make an MLB roster. Excellent use of value from Getz. 

Probably 20-25% on the worst MLB roster ever assembled.

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9 minutes ago, Quin said:

Cause "seasoned" is the best compliment you can give a bad, old reliever and Getz's entire FO revamp has been stressing his ability to develop guys internally?

How do you come to the conclusion that he's "bad"?

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