southsider2k5 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 33 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Didn't the last two guys we signed out of cuba completely bust? Didn't even make MLB for a cup of coffee. Sosa even if he never plays another game for us at least became about an average regular for 3/4 of a season. Yeah, I was trying not to measure the guys we signed out of Cuba at say 18 years or older, because it puts them on a different scale than the 16 year olds out of Latin America, but yeah. I think the next most successful guy would be Bryan Ramos, who has tasted the majors, but it still TBD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nrockway Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 On 8/3/2025 at 1:18 PM, SoxBlanco said: It’s absolutely wild how our perception of Colson has changed in just a little over a month. You and I, and probably everyone else, did not envision Colson being a major part of the future core. Now he’s been one of the best players in the game since the all-star break. speak for yourself. which you did. then you spoke for "everyone else" lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 5 minutes ago, nrockway said: speak for yourself. which you did. then you spoke for "everyone else" lol. You missed the “probably” in there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: You missed the “probably” in there. His bat to ball skill in this day and each will keep him on a roster. So far this year his move to 2B has been a undeniable success as he's played it mediocre while hitting 8% better than league average across all positions. Edited August 7 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) On 8/5/2025 at 2:42 AM, southsider2k5 said: Yeah, I was trying not to measure the guys we signed out of Cuba at say 18 years or older, because it puts them on a different scale than the 16 year olds out of Latin America, but yeah. I think the next most successful guy would be Bryan Ramos, who has tasted the majors, but it still TBD. Maybe thinking of Y.Cespedes? "Yogurt" Sanchez SS 2B? Norge Vera? "Although he has plenty of raw power the native of Yara, Cuba struck out an eye-popping 379 times in 1,168 at-bats during his time in Chicago. With this release it can be said that Céspedes was one of the biggest busts ever for the team in international free agency. This will not be the end for Céspedes though, he could very well end up in Asia, México or another farm system." francysromero Edited August 7 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Sosa is a success (so far) of giving someone a chance and letting him develop. Offensively he's becoming very effective. He still struggles defensively and should never set foot at 1B again. Hopefully he can become a serviceable 2B with continued exposure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Sosa is really going to make this infield situation complicated for Getz. The kid looks firmly like a 110 to 115 wRC+, ~2.5 win player. Only 25.5 years of age with another four years of team control I believe. The challenge is 2B really appears to be his only spot, which will block several guys and/or force Meidroth to the left side of the infield (and I don’t love the idea of him as a 3B). Good problem to have though, but would love to see some of these kids get some OF time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 26 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sosa is really going to make this infield situation complicated for Getz. The kid looks firmly like a 110 to 115 wRC+, ~2.5 win player. Only 25.5 years of age with another four years of team control I believe. The challenge is 2B really appears to be his only spot, which will block several guys and/or force Meidroth to the left side of the infield (and I don’t love the idea of him as a 3B). Good problem to have though, but would love to see some of these kids get some OF time. We need more of these kind of problems. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 8 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Maybe thinking of Y.Cespedes? "Yogurt" Sanchez SS 2B? Norge Vera? "Although he has plenty of raw power the native of Yara, Cuba struck out an eye-popping 379 times in 1,168 at-bats during his time in Chicago. With this release it can be said that Céspedes was one of the biggest busts ever for the team in international free agency. This will not be the end for Céspedes though, he could very well end up in Asia, México or another farm system." francysromero Wat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 @chitownsportsfan looking like a genius for starting this thread now. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sosa is really going to make this infield situation complicated for Getz. The kid looks firmly like a 110 to 115 wRC+, ~2.5 win player. Only 25.5 years of age with another four years of team control I believe. The challenge is 2B really appears to be his only spot, which will block several guys and/or force Meidroth to the left side of the infield (and I don’t love the idea of him as a 3B). Good problem to have though, but would love to see some of these kids get some OF time. Maybe they should send him to the Instructional League and make him a first baseman, an infield of Vargas at 3rd, Monty at SS, Meidroth at 2B and Sosa at 1B might be the answer, Sosa at 3rd and Vargas at 1B is another possibility, I’m pretty sure Sosa played more than a few games at 3B in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 45 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: @chitownsportsfan looking like a genius for starting this thread now. 👍🏻 I WANT MY PROPS FOR BEING THE KING OF THE PLAY SOSA EVERY DAY CLUB!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 There's been a few of us here saying Sosa was the most likely to improve and stick, of everyone around. His history shows it. Hilarious how much hype Vargas gets and hate Sosa gets. Sosa has now been more than 50% more valuable ytd than Vargas despite fewer games played. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 20 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: There's been a few of us here saying Sosa was the most likely to improve and stick, of everyone around. His history shows it. Hilarious how much hype Vargas gets and hate Sosa gets. Sosa has now been more than 50% more valuable ytd than Vargas despite fewer games played. Who is hyping up Vargas? I’d say the vast majority of the board doesn’t like him at all. There are a few of us who believe there is untapped potential with the bat, but I don’t anyone is overly excited about him if he’s a 1B long-term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 42 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: There's been a few of us here saying Sosa was the most likely to improve and stick, of everyone around. His history shows it. Hilarious how much hype Vargas gets and hate Sosa gets. Sosa has now been more than 50% more valuable ytd than Vargas despite fewer games played. Well, you see, Sosa didn't change his swing enough for Schriffen to talk about it. 18 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who is hyping up Vargas? I’d say the vast majority of the board doesn’t like him at all. There are a few of us who believe there is untapped potential with the bat, but I don’t anyone is overly excited about him if he’s a 1B long-term. Early during early summer, around the first Cubs series, Vargas was penciled in all the future plans while several people could not wait to be rid of Sosa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 45 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: There's been a few of us here saying Sosa was the most likely to improve and stick, of everyone around. His history shows it. Hilarious how much hype Vargas gets and hate Sosa gets. Sosa has now been more than 50% more valuable ytd than Vargas despite fewer games played. And Sosa gets dumped on a crazy amount for his background story. Dude has never been a huge name or highly ranked guy, yet he keeps beating expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who is hyping up Vargas? I’d say the vast majority of the board doesn’t like him at all. There are a few of us who believe there is untapped potential with the bat, but I don’t anyone is overly excited about him if he’s a 1B long-term. I think some people envision me having a notebook filled with me practicing signing "Eddy Vargas" in it, and I think besides saying he could be a 3 WAR 3B (not crazy given the pace he was on for 2 months), I've also said he may not be on the next competitive team. He's a place holder until he taps into that top 40 potential with the bat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydanks Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Lenyn Sosa is playing better than he is and it's still worse than an average player because he has no positional versatility and he's a 700 ops guy that is a minus defender regardless of how many times he gets a two run rbi down 5-0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 2 hours ago, bobbydanks said: Lenyn Sosa is playing better than he is and it's still worse than an average player because he has no positional versatility and he's a 700 ops guy that is a minus defender regardless of how many times he gets a two run rbi down 5-0 Yeah he just feels like odd man out. Would be great if they somehow moved Benintendi this offseason and made him learn LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 2 hours ago, bobbydanks said: Lenyn Sosa is playing better than he is and it's still worse than an average player because he has no positional versatility and he's a 700 ops guy that is a minus defender regardless of how many times he gets a two run rbi down 5-0 The wild thing is, if you go to fangraphs and sort 2Bs by fWAR, Lenyn is 11th of 22 qualified players, the very definition of average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 41 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The wild thing is, if you go to fangraphs and sort 2Bs by fWAR, Lenyn is 11th of 22 qualified players, the very definition of average. On a rate basis, he's about 16th of guys who actually play 2nd base and removing qualifiers (still requiring 200 PA'S though). So pretty close to right in the middle. He's actually in the top 10 since the middle of June though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 He's a perfectly cromulent starting 2B. If we had 8 more positions covered as well we wouldn't be losing 100+ games again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 On 8/8/2025 at 10:12 AM, chitownsportsfan said: He's a perfectly cromulent starting 2B. If we had 8 more positions covered as well we wouldn't be losing 100+ games again. Since 7/1 he's here's how he ranks among AL 2nd Basemen. Avg .288 1st Slg .525 1st HR 8 1st RBI 26 1st 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Team leader in HRs, that dreaded Lenyn Sosa. I love Lenyn, I just wish he had a bit more baseball IQ out there. Hard to argue the bat, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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