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15 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Pretty sure during the broadcast they put up a graphic that said Jones was called up. Schriffren said something like it might be a name people aren't familiar with and talked about his speed, defense and power.

Yes. He was called up. I am asking if he was actually available today because he played for Charlotte earlier in the day so it seems very possible he was not available today. 

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16 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Who is tweeting post game quotes? Again, honest question. DVs used to have videos on Twitter of the post game comments every day. Well, he done. Fegan doesn't even tweet anymore and Merkin is too busy planning his next meal and talking about Michigan. And as an out of town fan, I don't have access to the post game show. 

Maybe Connor McKnight or Garfien  ?

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12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Well I'm in California and I manage and I don't have the MLB package but  not sure if the MLB package stays with the broadcast long enough for post game show. If I get the CHSN broadcast like I did tonight I'll see post game.

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It was weird that Tauchman chose to continue home then stop instead of trying to get back to the bag on one leg, it looked like his hammy popped a step after he rounded so it wasn’t like he was way down the line yet 

but I know that s%*# hurts and it hurts bad, I tore my hamstring a few years ago for the first time and do not recommend 0/10 stars.  Got the big ole yucky bruise and everything 

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6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Yes. He was called up. I am asking if he was actually available today because he played for Charlotte earlier in the day so it seems very possible he was not available today. 

That's what I was asking to. Wegner said he was there because Kasper said so but that doesn't necessarily mean they decided he was available  and if he did play earlier today it's likely they decided not to use him today .

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19 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Pretty sure during the broadcast they put up a graphic that said Jones was called up. Schriffren said something like it might be a name people aren't familiar with and talked about his speed, defense and power.

On the radio side, they announced Benintendi was paced on 10 day il and Jones was called up and was there and available....but I guess Len could have been mistaken 

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10 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

That's what I was asking to. Wegner said he was there because Kasper said so but that doesn't necessarily mean they decided he was available  and if he did play earlier today it's likely they decided not to use him today .

If you are right, then the Sox once again played a man short, which would be just as stupid.

Stretching harder than Hawk trying to make excuses for a stupid team.

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17 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

It was weird that Tauchman chose to continue home then stop instead of trying to get back to the bag on one leg, it looked like his hammy popped a step after he rounded so it wasn’t like he was way down the line yet 

but I know that s%*# hurts and it hurts bad, I tore my hamstring a few years ago for the first time and do not recommend 0/10 stars.  Got the big ole yucky bruise and everything 

Yeah it's brutal. I did it stretching a single to a double in college but was still safe at 2nd because I hobbled and dove my ass to the bag. He could've done it. 

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7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If you are right, then the Sox once again played a man short, which would be just as stupid.

Stretching harder than Hawk trying to make excuses for a stupid team.

Dude it might be normal to not play a guy who played today already. He could've got there an hour before game time and not had enough time to go through his pregame routine.

I don't know why you're so all fired up to put blame somewhere in every single situation. I'm just being fair . If they played a player short so be it. It happens and sometimes is unavoidable.  Don't you ever just say things are never as we wish they were nor do they appear as we think we see it ?

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When it comes to great ways to prove this management team is different than the last one, reducing the amount of soft tissue injuries and not playing guys who are obviously hurt would be two great places to start.

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7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Dude it might be normal to not play a guy who played today already. He could've got there an hour before game time and not had enough time to go through his pregame routine.

I don't know why you're so all fired up to put blame somewhere in every single situation. I'm just being fair . If they played a player short so be it. It happens and sometimes is unavoidable.  Don't you ever just say things are never as we wish they were nor do they appear as we think we see it ?

The guy had 2 at bats for Charlotte.  He would’ve been asked to pinch run and would have been the winning run, not expected to play another entire game.

How do players play in two games of a double header?

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I'll admit there might be a contradiction in "to prevent injury, make a guy run fast when he already played a game earlier and then got on a plane and missed out on proper warmups"

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2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

The fact that the Sox have gone through multiple head trainers in the past 10 years and gone through more trainers and conditioning folks in that same span than you can count...yet nothing seems to change.

As I've been told by folks in the organization and around the team something is terribly amiss with the training, conditioning, nutrition areas with this organization. And yes, the players themselves also have some responsibility. 

Injuries happen but as I was told by an individual:

“Given the inordinate amount of soft-tissue injuries they have had you’d think that they would do a complete change in the training, conditioning and nutritional areas.”

I have no idea if the Sox have done anything along these lines or not given that the results of Hahn's deep-dive into these areas and the constant injuries was never released. 

 

 

I know we have had this discussion in the past but you don't seem to understand the concept.

The Athletic trainer is NOT responsible for preventing the injuries. This is the responsibility of the strength and conditioning staff. 

The Athletic trainer is responsible for treating injuries after they happen and returning them to their prior level of function.

Changing the head Athletic trainer will not change the occurrence of the injuries. It may change in how quickly they return.

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8 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I know we have had this discussion in the past but you don't seem to understand the concept.

The Athletic trainer is NOT responsible for preventing the injuries. This is the responsibility of the strength and conditioning staff. 

The Athletic trainer is responsible for treating injuries after they happen and returning them to their prior level of function.

Changing the head Athletic trainer will not change the occurrence of the injuries. It may change in how quickly they return.

Who is in charge of activating players when they still aren’t 100% healthy from their initial injury, only for us to watch them get reinjured?  The GM?

Because this has been happening to the Sox quite a bit over the years.

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2 hours ago, fathom said:

He was running gingerly earlier in the game. And yes, Jones should have been running for him.

This is the post of the year. Seriously ... how could there not be a pinch runner unless we were actively trying to lose again. How could there not be a pinch runner? Tauchmann should be incensed.

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9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Who is in charge of activating players when they still aren’t 100% healthy from their initial injury, only for us to watch them get reinjured?  The GM?

Because this has been happening to the Sox quite a bit over the years.

That you can put on the medical staff. Some of it could be on the GM and coaching staff depending on the dynamics. The coaches and such would over ride the medical staff more often 10 years ago. Still does some but not as often.

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15 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I know we have had this discussion in the past but you don't seem to understand the concept.

The Athletic trainer is NOT responsible for preventing the injuries. This is the responsibility of the strength and conditioning staff. 

The Athletic trainer is responsible for treating injuries after they happen and returning them to their prior level of function.

Changing the head Athletic trainer will not change the occurrence of the injuries. It may change in how quickly they return.

Ptatc: Serious question. If you worked for the Sox and were in the dugout would you have demanded our new skipper pinch run for him in the 9th? Knowing his injury, etc? This is malpractice IMO of the White Sox.

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Let's not drift into ancillary points about conditioning and training. Bottom line - there was a pinch runner on the bench that was not deployed for a hobbled, slow, old, gassed player. We will never know, but absent the injury, I doubt Tauchman had the stamina or the legs to beat the throw.

Obviously Sox need several things but at the top of the list would be a Closer and maybe a burner/base stealer. We all know the rest of the list.

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1 hour ago, wegner said:

On the radio side, they announced Benintendi was paced on 10 day il and Jones was called up and was there and available....but I guess Len could have been mistaken 

Wow what is wrong with Beni?

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Aside from last year is this the Sox worst start in history? It's tough to lose this many games in April. Usually it takes a bit for bad teams' record to become rotten.

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6 hours ago, Jake said:

I'm finding it not that obvious who leaves the 40-man to make room for Jankowski. If it were me, I'd just cut bait with Clevinger...but I don't think that's what will happen. Maybe things are far enough along with Varland's elbow that he could go to the 60-day? Not sure...

They have an open spot from they cut Jankowski but that may be going to Narváez.

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IMO, Kwan probably would have gunned down Tauchman considering the way he lumbered around third and could not advance a base earlier in the game.  A hold sign at third might have resulted in a loss as well, but you hate to get thrown out at the plate to end the game. Hopefully another lesson learned for the young Manager.

 

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13 hours ago, ptatc said:

I know we have had this discussion in the past but you don't seem to understand the concept.

The Athletic trainer is NOT responsible for preventing the injuries. This is the responsibility of the strength and conditioning staff. 

The Athletic trainer is responsible for treating injuries after they happen and returning them to their prior level of function.

Changing the head Athletic trainer will not change the occurrence of the injuries. It may change in how quickly they return.

PTATC: I understand the concept I simply forgot to add the title of strength and conditioning areas to my comment. Over the past decade a number of them in those areas have been hired and fired.

 

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